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We should have discussed his contract long ago, and if he didnt want to sign then transfer. We should be able to force a move!

Too late now, he'll go for free anyway and we get fucked again...
How can we force a move when the player doesn't want to sign for any teams either? Every player has a contract.

We are not in the Moratti era anymore i.e. afford to freeze players out while still have to pay millions for nothing. The players always have the upper hand. Look at Dortmund and other Bundesliga teams, their core players to Bayern for dirt cheap or free. Same for us or Milan. Managers cannot do anything without player's agreement.
 

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Antonello said they will reduce the cost of the squad, but they wanna be competitive.... So, same shit every year.
Yeah but what does this mean? Because if it means not giving Handa, Dzeko, D'Ambrosio, Gagliardini, De Vrij, etc. millions and millions of euros to renew, and NOT signing people like Bellanova, then go ahead and reduce the cost of the squad.

If it means selling Onana/Barella and renewing the aforementioned shitters because it looks better on the books, then, as always, fuck Suning :lol:
 

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How can we force a move when the player doesn't want to sign for any teams either? Every player has a contract.

We are not in the Moratti era anymore i.e. afford to freeze players out while still have to pay millions for nothing. The players always have the upper hand. Look at Dortmund and other Bundesliga teams, their core players to Bayern for dirt cheap or free. Same for us or Milan. Managers cannot do anything without player's agreement.

You can choose to freeze them out.

Its dependent on how ruthless the club wants to be, and you we can easily afford it e.g Skriniar and Bastoni are not playing now (What is the difference?)
 

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think we need new scouts, are the old palermo scouts available they used to have so many good players
 

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gds - Inter won't be forced to sell next summer, sales will be a technical and opportunity choice. In the viewfinder Kessié and Retegui, but also Chalobah and Adarabioyo for the post Skriniar. The goal is to raise the bar if possible by rejuvenating the squad.
 

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gds - Inter won't be forced to sell next summer, sales will be a technical and opportunity choice. In the viewfinder Kessié and Retegui, but also Chalobah and Adarabioyo for the post Skriniar. The goal is to raise the bar if possible by rejuvenating the squad.
At this moment if Kessie really comes to Inter, I'm down for that. Brozo might leave, same with 5Gag - and Kessie could fill both set of shoes
 

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I really don't understand that obsession with Kessie?! As per rumors Barca will ask for 25 mln and with his fat 5 mln net salary, this is just not worth it. I prefer to go after Frattesi, who will cost 30-35mln, with half salary, plus he is younger and with higher ceiling.
 

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ofc it all depends on who leaves and if Kessie can be loaned to Inter

if Barella leaves ofc I want Frattesi
 

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No chance that Barella leaves. Same goes for Bastoni and Lautaro IMO.
 

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I think that's a very brave statement tbh. Bastoni is on the last year of his contract, Barella is being chased by Liverpool.... And we probably need 60-80mil plusvalenza in the summer.

If Bastoni was so sure not to leave, I think he'd have agreed a new contract by now. I'm not saying he will leave, but in his shoes, you're probably in a wait and see mode.
 

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I guess winning CL would help greatly in this case.
 

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I guess winning CL would help greatly in this case.
financially? TBH it might not help as much as we'd like, given the lack of our main sponsor at the moment :( - that's where the primary sponsorship bonus should come from

in terms of keeping players, the rumours were that bastoni and barella would only stay if we made CL - that seems very likely now, so hopefully they do stay, but I dont want to take anything for granted untol new contracts are announced

Financially, a CL win obviously probably gets us a couple tens of millions extra once evreything is factored in, sets us up well for next season, and hopefully gives us a platform to build ontop of for increasing revenues and sponsorships further.
 

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what is up with players hard on for the EPL? I mean in the US they always say it's the best league but historically if we go by champions league Spain is then Italy. EPL has all the money but Napoli might lose their Korean CB to fking Man U that hasn't been good in like 10 years and might not even make champions league next season.
 

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what is up with players hard on for the EPL? I mean in the US they always say it's the best league but historically if we go by champions league Spain is then Italy. EPL has all the money but Napoli might lose their Korean CB to fking Man U that hasn't been good in like 10 years and might not even make champions league next season.
Even if salaries arent hugely higher than Italy for most players, your marketing value goes through the roof, you become significantly more recognisable globally. I mean that Korean CB going to United is genius marketing, potentially genius footballing, and genius for him as an individual.
 

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I think that's a very brave statement tbh. Bastoni is on the last year of his contract, Barella is being chased by Liverpool.... And we probably need 60-80mil plusvalenza in the summer.

If Bastoni was so sure not to leave, I think he'd have agreed a new contract by now. I'm not saying he will leave, but in his shoes, you're probably in a wait and see mode.
Where do you come with these 60-80m plusvalenza? Out of your ass?
I know these numbers popped up in 2021 after covid season. But meanwhile we made way more money with CL and in the same time we reduce our bill (wages and amortisation) significantly. I am curious.
 

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Where do you come with these 60-80m plusvalenza? Out of your ass?
I know these numbers popped up in 2021 after covid season. But meanwhile we made way more money with CL and in the same time we reduce our bill (wages and amortisation) significantly. I am curious.
That's basically been what our annual target has been in the last few seasons. My comment there was ignoring the CL Run - just the default position of this club, probably what we forecast for the season.

We're likel yto need that, if not a lot more, next season - a lot of that will be decided by the sponsorship situation,a nd whatever happens with debts, but we have like 350m?? coming due in the next 12-ish months.

Also, why so rude? We're all inter fans, we're all trying to share opinions/views/context. It's really disappointing to see someone being a prick.


You need to remember, our club builds forecasts for the season on the basis of 17th place Serie A, 4th in CL - and against that as a baseline, the last couple of years, and the next couple probably as well, that's the sort of plusvalenza we need to raise to maintain our financial position. Obviously with ome wages being reduced, that helps, but we'll also have to move all of our sponsorship money to liabilities rather claimed income


That's with substantial reduction from our lowest points of like, what was it, about -200m? Even when we plusvalenza'd lukakh we still lost like 130m?
 

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But is our amortization cost as high as it was in 2020-21? Don't think it's close enough.

Our revenues are significantly higher, CL run or not. The "extra" CL money is significant this year, but that's only because we anticipated failure (group exit) because that's what we had when we spent a shitload of money and we don't do that anymore.

Our salary budget is ~30% lower than 2021.

This is the last year we're carrying "handshakes". Sanchez being the last one and we're taking the 100% of the hit now.

Our sponsorship is shaky, but it should get better after the deep CL run, potential final appearance.
We're still getting the Coppa final money this year, and probably the winning coupon as well.


Our major issue is that we're still wasting money and we don't see the relative sporting return (Correa, Dzeko, Lukaku, De Vrij, Handanovic, Brozovic and Gosens this year).

Future isn't great, but it's not as grim as some make it out to be. It's all down to not mismanaging our assets and not committing to any bad deals (ie Correa or getting Lukaku back after next season). If we somehow end up with a new ownership, all the better!

@pier shed your lights, hopefully tomorrow after you recover from the celebrations of our advancement to the final :)
 

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As I said, the numbers quoted were kind of the top level season target/forecast rather than reality today. Reality today is different, but the forecast for this season as a starting approximation for next season isn't a horrendous start - there are savings but we also have increased wages and losses from sponsorship. A decent amount will come down to main shirt sponsor in the summer.
 

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As I said, the numbers quoted were kind of the top level season target/forecast rather than reality today. Reality today is different, but the forecast for this season as a starting approximation for next season isn't a horrendous start - there are savings but we also have increased wages and losses from sponsorship. A decent amount will come down to main shirt sponsor in the summer.
Oh sure, I'm not arguing these numbers.

In fact, I know for a fact that the target was for 60m and you're right to expand that to 80m as that's the sponsorship money we never received.

I trust that the figure has dropped to ~35m now, which is possibly cured by a big sponsorship deal we may sign - to eliminate the need for a big sale - and I'm not even sure if we can simply just not write off the Digital Bits sponsorship yet and just report them as accruals, but I'm not sure on the accounting practice here.
 
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