Mauro Icardi

[wera]

Icardi is a good striker and having a competent team and coach helps. But I refuse to hype him as much as some of you, at least not until he shows more of his potential against big opposition. No more excuses. I know he cannot deliver everytime, but this is what I think should be his 'world class' season

 

[thatdude]

I feel like he’s ready for a special season. 2nd year under Spalletti and coming into his prime years. No huge distractions going on off the field, well rested with no World Cup, and some new signings that should help him creatively. If he can stay healthy there is no excuse for him not to perform.

 

[Bluenine]

Icardi is a good striker and having a competent team and coach helps. But I refuse to hype him as much as some of you, at least not until he shows more of his potential against big opposition. No more excuses. I know he cannot deliver everytime, but this is what I think should be his 'world class' season

91 Serie A goals in last 4 seasons for a 25 year old sounds pretty World Class to me. But yes, he is now entering his peak years so I too expect more.

In 2-3 seasons, Icardi can become Inter's 2nd highest scorer in Serie A of all time. If he stays his entire career here, he can even beat Meazza's Serie A record for Inter (197). Which is very remarkable considering Inter's history, so we may be talking about an all-time great of our club here.

 

[Shaun]

I'm not quite so impressed with the goal stats. Serie A defenses are simply not what they used to be, nor is the league particularly defensive anymore. I'm not saying he's not a great goalscorer, but the goals per game average has risen by like 0.7 a game from 15 years ago? And this isn't a slight on Icardi of course. He can only score against who he comes up against, but the numbers of all the top strikers are doing in the league is ridiculous. Dybala scored 20 goals as playing mostly as a midfielder. How often has that happened in the league recently? Lazio scoring 90 goals in a season?

People used to belittle players who scored a shit ton in Spain by asking how many they'd score in Italy. The truth now is probably roughly the same?

 

[ElDuccio]

The thing with the scoaring goals is because we only have him to shot on goal and our players are focused on him.. he is still good to make profit of it, this is not the discusion i want to make. What i want to say is that Icardi would make less goals if we had strikers like one time where Cruz and Ibra played together or Ronaldo Zamorano..

Thats why i dont like this comparison with Meazza or other players.. he is also someone who is concentrated to score goals. But a player who also made more for the team and dont was a finisher, cant be worser only because he only scored 15-20 goals in one season.

But im not saying he sucks. It´s only this "hype" that i hate...

 

[Dylan]

How many of the guys he is up against in the all time scoring lists had to spend multiple seasons with the likes of Jonathan and Nagatomo being his main providers, or Guarin and Alvarez as the playmaker behind him?

We got ourselves a half decent AM for 6 months and he became top scorer in the league.

 

[ED 8661]

I dont think people are Hyping him, it’s more praising him, i think it’s completely normal for fans of their fav club praising their team captain

 

[Jane The Virgin]

Peoplee are not impresed because serie a defenders are not what they used to be... In comparasment to what and when? Meazza years? When an alcoholic would score goals while being hungover?

Come on dudes, give credit where credit is due.

Icardi is world class. One of the best in the world. Deal with it.

 

[Shaun]

Icardi is world class. One of the best in the world. Deal with it.

Well, people's definition of world class can certainly vary (see Browha's posts in the Zlatan thread). He's one of the best in Italy clearly. All I said was I'm not as impressed by scoring goals in Italy as I once was. I never said anything about him being world class or otherwise. I think he's a world class finisher, but not the type of striker I feel you build a winning team around. However, he has the chance to proof me wrong (just like I said the last few seasons).

What I would like to see is Spalletti giving him a bit more of a rest next season. We saw a tired Icardi for a stretch last season and he was pretty utterly useless for a while. The guy can't be expected to perform week in and week out while playing playing 90 minutes every game in both the league and CL

 

[Nero Indigo]

This will be the season I expect him to deliver on the big stage. Puts all the debate shit to rest.

 

[Fapuccino]

Well, people's definition of world class can certainly vary (see Browha's posts in the Zlatan thread). He's one of the best in Italy clearly. All I said was I'm not as impressed by scoring goals in Italy as I once was.

Scoring in Italy is no different than anywhere else. Salah went from 15 something to 30 something in EPL. Obviously Klopp had a hand in that, but in terms of raw skill you can't really argue he's having it much tougher.

You can make the argument that Serie A is not as defensive as it used to be, but that doesn't mean it's easier to score here than in other leagues.

I think he's a world class finisher, but not the type of striker I feel you build a winning team around.

You shouldn't build teams around individual players. That's the wrong way of looking at things. This world cup with Messi/Ronaldo showed just that. Let players shine on their own.

Strikers are hit and miss, even the best ones. If the team relies on the consistency of a forward to be successful long term, they're fucked. Like Fergie said, strikers win you games, defenders win you titles.

 

[brehme1989]

Can you name me one team that wouldn't try to sign Icardi if he was free now and had no preference of who to join and no issues with any Messis or other people?

 

[Adriano@10]

Icardi is a good striker and having a competent team and coach helps. But I refuse to hype him as much as some of you, at least not until he shows more of his potential against big opposition. No more excuses. I know he cannot deliver everytime, but this is what I think should be his 'world class' season

Whats big opposition for you?
Cause he scored against all the big opponents in serie a the only big team in serie a he never scored against is Inter.
His record in big games:
VS Napoli 12 games 2 Goals 2 assists
VS BBilan 12 games 4 goals
VS Roma 10 games 5 goals 1 assist
VS Jube 12 games 8 goals and 2 assists

His record is only weak against Napoli and seeing as Jube is probably the highest pressure game and the biggest game and there his record is very impressive.
Anyways my point is how can one say he s not a big game player when he scores fairly often against the biggest competitors he has met yet.
I can understand though that people dont want to give him the WC label till he proved himselfe in CL or in another league.

Btw the data is from whoscored and includes his samp days.

 

[Candreva Crosses]

Scoring in Italy is no different than anywhere else. Salah went from 15 something to 30 something in EPL. Obviously Klopp had a hand in that, but in terms of raw skill you can't really argue he's having it much tougher.

You can make the argument that Serie A is not as defensive as it used to be, but that doesn't mean it's easier to score here than in other leagues.



You shouldn't build teams around individual players. That's the wrong way of looking at things. This world cup with Messi/Ronaldo showed just that. Let players shine on their own.

Strikers are hit and miss, even the best ones. If the team relies on the consistency of a forward to be successful long term, they're fucked. Like Fergie said, strikers win you games, defenders win you titles.

I felt like Argentina was all about Messi but with Portugal not so much about Ronaldo as Messi in Argentina.

 

[Steevee]

Whats big opposition for you?
Cause he scored against all the big opponents in serie a the only big team in serie a he never scored against is Inter.
His record in big games:
VS Napoli 12 games 2 Goals 2 assists
VS BBilan 12 games 4 goals
VS Roma 10 games 5 goals 1 assist
VS Jube 12 games 8 goals and 2 assists

His record is only weak against Napoli and seeing as Jube is probably the highest pressure game and the biggest game and there his record is very impressive.
Anyways my point is how can one say he s not a big game player when he scores fairly often against the biggest competitors he has met yet.
I can understand though that people dont want to give him the WC label till he proved himselfe in CL or in another league.

Btw the data is from whoscored and includes his samp days.

I like Icardi, but I'm sure he scored 4 in one game against Juve whilst playing for Samp... kinda skews those figures dramatically.

 

[Candreva Crosses]

I like Icardi, but I'm sure he scored 4 in one game against Juve whilst playing for Samp... kinda skews those figures dramatically.

Because scoring 4 times against rube in 1 game with fucking Samp is easy.

 

[Adriano@10]

I like Icardi, but I'm sure he scored 4 in one game against Juve whilst playing for Samp... kinda skews those figures dramatically.

it s 3 goals and 1 assists for samp agaist jube in 2 games! ALso the same could be said against bbilan where he scored 3 in one game.
Anyways my point is and was he preformed pretty good on the biggest stages he got to play up till now.

 

[Pimpin]

I hate when my players score 3 goals vs our biggest rivals.

I also hate when my striker scores 29 goals, most goals in season because that means the league has become shit.

remember when you guys were content with a striker who guarantees 15+ goals in a season? what happened to you fucks lol

 

[CoolMan44]

I like Icardi, but I'm sure he scored 4 in one game against Juve whilst playing for Samp... kinda skews those figures dramatically.

He scored 2 goals against Juve for Samp, the most he's scored against Juve in a single game.

 

[Bluenine]

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