Matias Vecino

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Theres no need to help them, though. Short of Vecino being another Lucio for them, even if he only adds a little bit, he's still adding to them.

Well, does the benefit - getting him off our wage budget, possibly getting a smallish, FFP-helping fee for him, getting rid of a body on our squad list so we have the possibility of adding someone more helpful to our causes - outweigh the (potential) downsides, will always be the question to ask.
In this case, knowing Vecino, I'd quite readily say yes in a heartbeat. Sure, there's a miniscule risk that he'd turn into a massive success, but even discounting the fact that we're talking about Matias Vecino here, what are the chances that that will happen for any player in the train-wreck that is Allegri's Juventus anno 2022?

I'd say selling them Hernanes for 12 million back when was way better for us than it was for them, and I'm seeing the same picture here, even if we aren't talking the same sort of economics.

 

[vex]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1474142004808335377

Just saw this on Twitter from another angle, I wonder what's the reason for the scuffle. Maybe vecino is already on autopilot mode and perisic didn't like the effort from him, or something like that. Either way he needs to go, I rate him more than gaglia but in this system he is like a fish out of water. Hopefully his agent is working on it...

 

[.h.]

Well, does the benefit - getting him off our wage budget, possibly getting a smallish, FFP-helping fee for him, getting rid of a body on our squad list so we have the possibility of adding someone more helpful to our causes - outweigh the (potential) downsides, will always be the question to ask.
In this case, knowing Vecino, I'd quite readily say yes in a heartbeat. Sure, there's a miniscule risk that he'd turn into a massive success, but even discounting the fact that we're talking about Matias Vecino here, what are the chances that that will happen for any player in the train-wreck that is Allegri's Juventus anno 2022?

I'd say selling them Hernanes for 12 million back when was way better for us than it was for them, and I'm seeing the same picture here, even if we aren't talking the same sort of economics.

I would taake the risk. We'd save maybe 1.5m on salaray (gross) and get like 2-4m for him?

He could actually add a little bit of defensive cover, let their fragile midfielders play a bit more liberally, and give them a little bit more backbone.


I just woulddnt take the risk.

 

[acroMacho]

I would taake the risk.
...
I just woulddnt take the risk.

You just can't decide I see

 

[.h.]

Sorry, I meant wouldnt in the first line

3-4m into Inter's coffers is not worth the risk that Vecino helps them improve.

 

[eduzee]

wtf Marotta? should have sell

 

[Candreva Crosses]

Well, does the benefit - getting him off our wage budget, possibly getting a smallish, FFP-helping fee for him, getting rid of a body on our squad list so we have the possibility of adding someone more helpful to our causes - outweigh the (potential) downsides, will always be the question to ask.
In this case, knowing Vecino, I'd quite readily say yes in a heartbeat. Sure, there's a miniscule risk that he'd turn into a massive success, but even discounting the fact that we're talking about Matias Vecino here, what are the chances that that will happen for any player in the train-wreck that is Allegri's Juventus anno 2022?

I'd say selling them Hernanes for 12 million back when was way better for us than it was for them, and I'm seeing the same picture here, even if we aren't talking the same sort of economics.

They're fucking crazy implying he will add something or that Lucio added something. Its like they haven't watched Inter the last couple of years where we discuss which of our 2 trash are the better, Gagli or Vecino.

 

[.h.]

shrug, i'd still rather not reinforce juventus. even if there's a 10% chance he works out, its still a large risk considering 'working out' might mean they make CL, keep Dybala, keep De Ligt, etc. Whereas 'not working out' might mean De Ligt goes, Dybala is on a bosman, and they're financially fucked for a few years.

They can have Kolarov if we want to offload someone, but I wouldnt risk it with Vecino, Gags, Ranocchia, or anyone like that.

 

[bubba zanetti]

Vecino to rube means EL and thats certain like fkn heart attack. We should throw that bum there like our life depends of it.

 

[.h.]

And yet he was the guy who got us into the CL twice?

 

[Puma]

How many years ago was that?

He has done 5/8s of fuck all since then.

He is as useless as Sensi. The only difference is that Vecino is actually fit to play.

 

[crzdcolombian]

I for one want a strong Juve and Milan…. Napoli, Roma, Lazio and Atalanta are Choke artist and make the league look bad internationally.

We need better tv revenue deals and getting our teams knocked out of group stages or raped doesn’t make the league look good. Also we are becoming a feeder league. We need the big 3 teams to do well and for the league to be exciting….

I mean I don’t think Vecino is going to do that for Juve…. But this whole hoping they go bankrupt by not making champions and losing all their best young players is crazy silly

 

[.h.]

i think everyone appreciates that juve, like barca, will come back in a couple of years. But I dont mind them hurting for 2 or 3 seasons.

To be honest, if the top 4 are something like Milan Inter Napoli Atalanta, it's not an entirely bad make up.

 

[Adriano@10]

shrug, i'd still rather not reinforce juventus. even if there's a 10% chance he works out, its still a large risk considering 'working out' might mean they make CL, keep Dybala, keep De Ligt, etc. Whereas 'not working out' might mean De Ligt goes, Dybala is on a bosman, and they're financially fucked for a few years.

They can have Kolarov if we want to offload someone, but I wouldnt risk it with Vecino, Gags, Ranocchia, or anyone like that.

Why though? Look at it this way if he is a help to them they can get him in the summer for free and we get nothing. If we sell him to them now atleast we get a bit of a financial bump and the downside for us in this season is almost 0. As i dont see jube getting close to us this season in any way shape or form.

Yes it would be nice to see them miss out on CL but imho that depends more in atalanta BBilan and napoli If they keep their pace vecino wont help jube much in getting to that CL spot.

Also giving them vecino now would mean that one spot on their roster for next season is taken by Vecino.... And in summer they could probaly pick up somebody better.

 

[brehme1989]

I think Vecino will go to a Spanish club or end up at Milan as a free agent to "replace" Kessie. He's the only guy, after perhaps D'Ambrosio, who they can get as a free agent from us. I don't see DDA going there, nor Milan genuinely going for him.

Brozovic and Perisic are out of the question for Milan.
Vidal probably can milk a last great deal and he'll want to "win with all big 3" of Italy as some sort of personal challenge before retirement. But Milan doesn't pay that much in salaries, so their only chance is to offer him a multi-year contract at 4m or something.


I'm mentioning Milan because they'll be desperate for a "win" over us after they lost Hakan who so far has fared really well and they can feel the heat.

Vecino will have interest from teams like Roma, Lazio, maybe even Napoli and Juventus, but moving to Milan is the only thing that doesn't unsettle him as much and the target is, on paper, similar, as long as they don't implode. He's not desperate to leave, I don't see a strong PL club going for him and he's not going to move to a West Ham or Leicester type of club just for the sake of moving somewhere, he's more likely to go to a team like Betis, Sevilla or Villarreal if they go for him.

Either way, I don't see Vecino being an Inter player by July 2022, but I see him ending the season here unless we can use him as counter-weight for a solid upgrade.

 

[.h.]

Why though? Look at it this way if he is a help to them they can get him in the summer for free and we get nothing. If we sell him to them now atleast we get a bit of a financial bump and the downside for us in this season is almost 0. As i dont see jube getting close to us this season in any way shape or form.

Yes it would be nice to see them miss out on CL but imho that depends more in atalanta BBilan and napoli If they keep their pace vecino wont help jube much in getting to that CL spot.

Also giving them vecino now would mean that one spot on their roster for next season is taken by Vecino.... And in summer they could probaly pick up somebody better.

if vecino is the difference between them making CL and not, then the 3-4mil we'd save and get by selling him 6 months early isnt worth the difference tbh.


No, I dont think Vecino will be an Inter player in July 22 either - I dont mind selling him to another club, but small decisions now could make. huge difference for Juve

 

[PHM1605]

if vecino is the difference between them making CL and not, then the 3-4mil we'd save and get by selling him 6 months early isnt worth the difference tbh.


No, I dont think Vecino will be an Inter player in July 22 either - I dont mind selling him to another club, but small decisions now could make. huge difference for Juve

Vecino playing means fewer minutes for any better players. And yes, he is worse than all other Jube midfielders, even though they are mediocre.

He can be decisive for 2' but playing like shit for the rest of the time and it had cost them more points.

 

[.h.]

Vecino playing means fewer minutes for any better players. And yes, he is worse than all other Jube midfielders, even though they are mediocre.

He can be decisive for 2' but playing like shit for the rest of the time and it had cost them more points.

He's different to their other midfield options though. For example, if he's the physical guy who can help to cover the defense, give Cuadrado etc more attacking room, and makes Juve a bit more solid and unleashes Arthur/Locatelli/etc more, then it'd be a bad transfer.


We need to look at how they complement the unit, rather than the individual themself.

 

[andrei]

Am I reading right, because I don't remember smoking anything? Are we talking about the same Matias Vecino?
This useless cunt can go whenever he wants, I could care less.

 

[andrei]

He's different to their other midfield options though. For example, if he's the physical guy who can help to cover the defense, give Cuadrado etc more attacking room, and makes Juve a bit more solid and unleashes Arthur/Locatelli/etc more, then it'd be a bad transfer.


We need to look at how they complement the unit, rather than the individual themself.

Is you, Matias?