Mario Balotelli

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are you serious, jose loved the fact that everyone was putting him in that situation, and that he could go against what everyone was saying and drop the so called undroppable mario. it was a perfect scenario for mou, a definate win-win situation.
A win-win ? How about if we lost with Chelsea in that knockout round without Balotelli. Would it still be a win-win ? :lol:

Let me tell you now, that if that happened, half of Italy would condemn Mourinho for not taking Balotelli, while Balotelli would think he won.

As for Balotelli carrying, this is getting beyond ridiculous. The only thing left, is some old Ronaldo fanboy coming here, and trying to convince me that Ronaldo is in fact an interista, and always was.

ps. I won't answer to ridiculous claim, how Mourinho had personal problems with Balotelli (again, it's Mourinhos fault). I've already been through it. This is a Balotelli fanboys talk.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you're calling character (like in Sneijder and Rooney's cases) a non-issue. So let's focus on work-rate (mainly in practice). Balotelli has never practiced under Benitez until this week. If you're main concern is how he practices, it's only fair to give him a chance to practice under the new coach.
Look. You work hard if you think that it is important for you, or if someone is standing behind you with a whip. But since slavery is not allowed in football, lets focus on case a). Now, this is part of your character, something that is in the core of your personality. You can't start doing this right, if you don't change yourself, your view on things. I don't need to wait to know what I already know, and that is that Balotelli didn't change.

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And one last thing. Queiroz about Ronaldo:

'I have worked with some outstanding players like Roberto Donadoni and Zinedine Zidane, but Ronaldo's mentality sets him apart,' Queiroz added.

'He had all their good points but some that were better, like his persistence.

'They are all unbelievable professionals but the way this boy has worked since he was 17, his perfectionism, his obsession, he wants to be the one. For him, it is not enough to be good. He has to be the best.'

Now find me a coach of Balotelli saying stuff like that ^. I don't remember even Mancini, who is supposedly in love with him, saying stuff like that.

Balotelli isn't in obsession with wanting to be the best. Balotelli is in obsession with playing all the time, and this attitude will be what will doom him for life.
 

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Look. You work hard if you think that it is important for you, or if someone is standing behind you with a whip. But since slavery is not allowed in football, lets focus on case a). Now, this is part of your character, something that is in the core of your personality. You can't start doing this right, if you don't change yourself, your view on things. I don't need to wait to know what I already know, and that is that Balotelli didn't change.

This is absurd. Have you never heard of the term "growing up"? I'm at a loss for words. Just because he hasn't changed in the past 2-3 years doesn't mean he is completely incapable of doing so.
 

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As I've explained many times, it's not about growing up, it's about changing your personality. Both are not the same. The first one comes naturaly for 99% of this planet, the second one doesn't come naturaly, is not easy, and it's more and more difficult to do when you get older.

If it was that Balotelli was just a loose cannon (like Rooney was when he was younger) but with OK attitude to improvement I wouldn't want him to leave. But most of you don't see the difference, you all just put all those separate cases to one box and judge them together.

As I've said many times. Balotelli is unique. I've never during my "carear" as football fan have known someone with personality, age, and tallent like him. Except for Cassano, and how he ended, I know.
 

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As I've explained many times, it's not about growing up, it's about changing your personality. Both are not the same. The first one comes naturaly for 99% of this planet, the second one doesn't come naturaly, is not easy, and it's more and more difficult to do when you get older.

This is just a question of development which very few of us are qualified to answer. But your personality does change as you grow up.
 

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Its On Man, Luka knows already that in 2 years Balotelli will be worth 5 million. No point in arguing he just wants what's best for Inter and that is to sell Mario and replace him with someone like Kuyt :lol:
 

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But your personality does change as you grow up.
It does, but not radicly, and Balotelli needs a radical change.

No point in arguing he just wants what's best for Inter and that is to sell Mario and replace him with someone like Kuyt :lol:
I would be totaly fine with another Balotelli, without the "mental" part. He can have the same name, he can be green, yellow, brown, pink, blue whatever. He can come from Arctica, or even Mars.

A player with less tallent than Balotelli, but who is reliable (unlike the idiot) will be worth a lot more to this team than Balotelli.
 

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Luka have so much time lately :p

P.S. Jesus&Pandev part by minterke rOx :d
 

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If the Forlan rumours are true, then its a no-brainer.

Shipping out an overrated talent for the most complete forward in the world.
 

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If the Forlan rumours are true, then its a no-brainer.

Shipping out an overrated talent for the most complete forward in the world.

Yup no brainer. Shipping out a 19 year old ITALIAN with infinite potential, for a 31 year old.
 

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If the Forlan rumours are true, then its a no-brainer.

Shipping out an overrated talent for the most complete forward in the world.

He's 31. I also don't think he's a direct replacement for Balotelli. I don't see him working well with Milito.


Luka, we're just going in circles, but a radlical change is possible, even though I don't think it has to be that radical. Donovan went from a total punk (Bruce Arena's word) (getting in fights, yelling at his coaches and refs, dying his hair bright blonde, taking his shirt off after every goal), to being a calm, complete player on and off of the field who is the face of MLS.
 

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Yup no brainer. Shipping out a 19 year old ITALIAN with infinite potential, for a 31 year old.
He can have Baggios, Maradonas, and Cruyffs pottential combined, and it will mean squat!, without the proper character ingedients.

Luka, we're just going in circles, but a radlical change is possible, even though I don't think it has to be that radical.
Radical change is possible ofcourse, that's why I've said to me 99% chance Balotelli will never do anything major in football, and not 100%. 1% is for this radical change, which in most cases need some disaster in your life (life-death experience of yours, or some death of a parrent or someone close).

Donovan went from a total punk (Bruce Arena's word) (getting in fights, yelling at his coaches and refs, dying his hair bright blonde, taking his shirt off after every goal), to being a calm, complete player on and off of the field who is the face of MLS.
Don't know exactly the Donovan case, but if he had similar issues to Cassano with also the same amount of tallent, then it's a good example.

28 years old, and face of MLS. Exactly.

Only 28 huh ?

I guess you're just waiting for Balotelli to reach "this level" ?
 

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Luigi Simoni Tells Inter 'Keep Balotelli, Sell Maicon'

The veteran tactician asks the club to hold on to 'Super Mario'...


Former Inter coach Luigi Simoni has advised the club to hold on to Mario Balotelli and sell right-back Maicon instead.

The 71-year-old, who was in charge of the club for a two-year spell in the late 1990's and won a UEFA Cup trophy, believes Balotelli is a future star of the game, while full-back Davide Santon could fill Maicon's role.

"An offer is good for Manchester City if they bid €30-35 million. However, if I were [Inter president Massimo] Moratti I would think he will be worth €90m in a few years and potentially a mix of Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi," he explained to La Gazzetta dello Sport.

"So either an offer of €50 million for Balotelli or keep him grounded where he is. Maicon instead could be sold and then give space to Santon."

Recent news for the peninsula suggests that Manchester City have submitted a €28 million plus a potential €7m for in bonuses for the talented teenager. A potential replacement, should he leave the San Siro, is Villarreal and Italian international striker Giuseppe Rossi.
 

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dont sell him Moratti!
 

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Based on what?? He plays deeper than Milito, if the perfect player to have behind Milito.
He's not going to play on the wings like Eto'o, Pandev, or Balotelli, and we already have Sneijder. That leaves center-forward, where we have Milito. Let's continue this on the Forwards transfer thread.

Radical change is possible ofcourse, that's why I've said to me 99% chance Balotelli will never do anything major in football, and not 100%. 1% is for this radical change, which in most cases need some disaster in your life (life-death experience of yours, or some death of a parrent or someone close).

I guess you're just waiting for Balotelli to reach "this level" ?
I'd say it's more of 70/30, and then 60/40 in a good environment. We're not a small club. We don't need to sell players to get as much money as possible. This is a calculated risk, with the possibility of a huge reward. We can take that chance. If it doesn't work out, so be it, we lose 20 mil maximum.
 

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Luigi Simoni Tells Inter 'Keep Balotelli, Sell Maicon'

The veteran tactician asks the club to hold on to 'Super Mario'...


Former Inter coach Luigi Simoni has advised the club to hold on to Mario Balotelli and sell right-back Maicon instead.

The 71-year-old, who was in charge of the club for a two-year spell in the late 1990's and won a UEFA Cup trophy, believes Balotelli is a future star of the game, while full-back Davide Santon could fill Maicon's role.

"An offer is good for Manchester City if they bid €30-35 million. However, if I were [Inter president Massimo] Moratti I would think he will be worth €90m in a few years and potentially a mix of Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi," he explained to La Gazzetta dello Sport.

"So either an offer of €50 million for Balotelli or keep him grounded where he is. Maicon instead could be sold and then give space to Santon."

Recent news for the peninsula suggests that Manchester City have submitted a €28 million plus a potential €7m for in bonuses for the talented teenager. A potential replacement, should he leave the San Siro, is Villarreal and Italian international striker Giuseppe Rossi.

I stopped listening to Simoni, when he slammed Mourinho for dissing FIGC.

I was wondering at that time, if Simoni would say the same in 1998.

Not to mention, how he said that Mourinho ain't any improvement over Mancini. Ain't it hilarious comment from the time perspective ? :lol:
 

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I stopped listening to Simoni, when he slammed Mourinho for dissing FIGC.

I was wondering at that time, if Simoni would say the same in 1998.

Not to mention, how he said that Mourinho ain't any improvement over Mancini. Ain't it hilarious comment from the time perspective ? :lol:

Keep Balotelli, start Santon, Mancini is god. Sounds like an Italian bias to me.
 

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He's not going to play on the wings like Eto'o, Pandev, or Balotelli, and we already have Sneijder. That leaves center-forward, where we have Milito. Let's continue this on the Forwards transfer thread..

On the wing? That implies that we use wingers at Inter. Is Eto'o a winger? Is Balotelli? Is Pandev?. No they are not. Our 4231 basicly consists of a central AM, 1 striker and two deep forwards. We dont use wingers, there is no reason why Forlan wouldnt slot in well at either left of right, since we dont use traditional wingers, but hanging forwards where Forlan plays his best football.
 

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I agree with az. Our setup isn't that different to the way uruguay played with suarez,forlan and cavani. Suarez was the furthest forward,cavani on the right and forlan was allowed to drift as he likes.
 
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