Luciano Spalletti

[Sassuolu]

^ This nonsense has to stop, give the man time I'd even give Wallace the benefit of the doubt if he's appointed manager.

At first I wasn't too enthused about the appointment because of his Roma past and him being our rival but tbh I'm looking forward to seeing Spalletti on our bench. Hopefully we get moving in the transfer market soon because the radio silence is scaring the fuck out of me.

 

[Bluenine]

Spaletti is like a aristocrat in tactics when compared to Mancini, Mancini should be compared to Gasperini and Stramaccioni instead.

Of course.

Mancini has won 4 league titles and 7 cups as coach with 5 different clubs in 3 different countries.
Spalletti has won 2 league titles & 3 cups.
Gasperini and Stramaccioni have won shit.

But yeah, Mancini is just lucky. :rollani:

Spalletti is a very different coach than Mancini, he creates a more attack minded team which is pleasing to the eye. But he is quite limited as a tactician as well, just like Mancini. His teams always look susceptible to counters making them a bit inconsistent to win leagues. I mean this year at Roma he was blessed with some fantastic defenders and midfielders, and yet they conceded 11 more than Juventus. That is why they did not win the Scudetto. A lack of a plan B, to dig in and not allow goals in certain games.

Despite his relative lack of success, I rate him at a similar level as Mancini. Just very different. With all due respect, as a coach Gasperini and Stramaccioni are not at their level.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Mancini needs best squad of the league to win that league. He can surely stack the midfield and defence so that team won't concede much. But usually it also requires individual talent up front which makes up for the total lack of any team play to generate goals.

 

[Sassuolu]

A lot of coaches have been given tonnes of cash and failed to get trophies.

 

[Bluenine]

Mancini needs best squad of the league to win that league. He can surely stack the midfield and defence so that team won't concede much. But usually it also requires individual talent up front which makes up for the total lack of any team play to generate goals.

You could say the same of Pep, Mourinho and a whole lot of others who are better coaches than Mancini. Because more often than not, the best squad wins the league. One way to look at it is where was the club before the coach. Mancini won Inter their first scudetto in almost 2 decades and City their first league title in almost 5 decades. And at Inter, contrary to popular notion, Mancini did not spend half as much money as other Inter coaches before him who failed.

I remember Milan fans joking that even with a 8 point penalty, they will finish at least 10 points ahead of Inter in 2006-07. They had one of the best coaches in the world in Ancelotti and a great squad - they won the CL that season. Yet they finished 36 points behind us. 36!

I also remember Man Utd fans saying that City will never even qualify for CL, forget winning the premier league. City qualified for CL in his first full season and won the FA cup, and the next season they won the league. Man Utd were not a bad team when City won the league, and Chelsea won the CL that season.

Sometimes we just don't give our coaches enough credit. Its much easier for a coach to win at an organised, disciplined club like Juventus than at a chaotic, crazy environment like Inter.

 

[CoolMan44]

Of course.

Mancini has won 4 league titles and 7 cups as coach with 5 different clubs in 3 different countries.
Spalletti has won 2 league titles & 3 cups.
Gasperini and Stramaccioni have won shit.

But yeah, Mancini is just lucky. :rollani:

Spalletti is a very different coach than Mancini, he creates a more attack minded team which is pleasing to the eye. But he is quite limited as a tactician as well, just like Mancini. His teams always look susceptible to counters making them a bit inconsistent to win leagues. I mean this year at Roma he was blessed with some fantastic defenders and midfielders, and yet they conceded 11 more than Juventus. That is why they did not win the Scudetto. A lack of a plan B, to dig in and not allow goals in certain games.

Despite his relative lack of success, I rate him at a similar level as Mancini. Just very different. With all due respect, as a coach Gasperini and Stramaccioni are not at their level.

Not really sure you can say he's blessed with fantastic defenders, Juve's defence is much better. Juve's bench defenders (Barzagli, Benatia, Rugani) can start for any other Serie A team. Also, Juventus have stability in defense. Roma sell a defender almost each season.

 

[Bluenine]

Not really sure you can say he's blessed with fantastic defenders, Juve's defence is much better. Juve's bench defenders (Barzagli, Benatia, Rugani) can start for any other Serie A team. Also, Juventus have stability in defense. Roma sell a defender almost each season.

Fazio, Manolas & Rudiger are pretty good too. Plus they have midfielders like Strootman, De Rossi & Nainggolan to protect them. It can be argued that a more defensively astute coach could have converted some of the draws and losses into better results, maybe with less spectacular scorelines.

Its the Wenger problem that Spalletti suffers from, in a way. There is no plan B, and the team drops points on a bad/difficult day, being predictably caught out on a counter.

Mancini has the opposite problem sometimes. He can grind out results, but his teams sometimes struggle to score against well organised teams who park the bus. There can be too many draws in his approach, but this also demonstrates a lack of plan B.

 

[M.Adnan]

You could say the same of Pep, Mourinho and a whole lot of others who are better coaches than Mancini. Because more often than not, the best squad wins the league.

Mancini would never win the CL with a club like Porto even if he keeps trying for 100 years. On contrary, he was a complete embarrassment and disgrace in every single CL season with both Inter and City. That's the difference between a real tactician and someone who just stacks the best players and hopes for the best.

 

[Harpsabu]

Mancini would never win the CL with a club like Porto even if he keeps trying for 100 years. On contrary, he was a complete embarrassment and disgrace in every single CL season with both Inter and City. That's the difference between a real tactician and someone who just stacks the best players and hopes for the best.

Come on, so to be a real tactician it's required you win CL with a club like Porto? So Ancelotti, Pep etc aren't real coaches then? Also, Conte hasn't exactly been good in the CL, is he not a real tactician either?

 

[ADRossi]

Porto are basically the only team since the year 2000 to "shock the world" and win the UCL.

Chelsea was a bit of a shock, does that make Di Matteo a genius?

 

[Inter7]

TBH The main difference between Mancini and Spalletti is the team identity, Spalletti although he doesn't have a plan B he has a style of football he teach and a philosophy involved there is player movements involved using wingers and midfielders to create space. Mancini doest really have a style per say he sets his team up to work hard and as previously mentioned use a world class fw to score and create. IE Ibra or Aguero.

Also Mou is the king of tactics in my books not even comparable.

 

[M.Adnan]

Come on, so to be a real tactician it's required you win CL with a club like Porto? So Ancelotti, Pep etc aren't real coaches then? Also, Conte hasn't exactly been good in the CL, is he not a real tactician either?

No you don't need to win the CL with Porto to be a real tactician, but atleast don't be completely atrocious in every single season you participate in and get out-schooled by weaker squads over and over again. That's Mancini.

 

[Cal]

Because at that time it was a choice between him and Mancini. This time it's between him, Conte and Simeone.

No need to explain further.

No, Spalletti was heralded as one of the greatest managers out there tactically at least, way before Mancini or even Mazzarri came to Inter. He was a darling of FIF.

 

[PHM1605]

No you don't need to win the CL with Porto to be a real tactician, but atleast don't be completely atrocious in every single season you participate in and get out-schooled by weaker squads over and over again. That's Mancini.

Except the last word,the rest describes exactly Spalletti okerface:

 

[syrus]

Its the Wenger problem that Spalletti suffers from, in a way. There is no plan B, and the team drops points on a bad/difficult day, being predictably caught out on a counter.
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Funny you should say that but I have always felt a Wenger-esk kinda style with Roma under LS

 

[M.Adnan]

Except the last word,the rest describes exactly Spalletti okerface:

Spalletti's never been considered a world class coach anyway and he's never been hired by clubs bigger than him. On the other hand, Mancini was hired by Inter and Man City and was expected to win the CL. Those clubs and expectations are way above his level. Zenit and Galatasaray seem to suit his mediocre skills better.

 

[firmino]

Second or third would be fine for next season and spalletti proved he can fight for that and get there more often than not. So I'm ok with him. Of course I won't complain if we manage to get in the fight for the title, but I don't know if the guy is up to the task.

 

[_Ivan_]

Spalletti's never been considered a world class coach anyway and he's never been hired by clubs bigger than him. On the other hand, Mancini was hired by Inter and Man City and was expected to win the CL. Those clubs and expectations are way above his level. Zenit and Galatasaray seem to suit his mediocre skills better.

Also Ranieri was hired to help Leicester to stay in the league with his mediocre/poor skills and his mediocre team. Now look at Zidane and Enrique also being ''super experienced'' coaches and getting success. This coach talk is bullshit unless likes of mourinho/guardiola are mentioned whom are real tactical experts nowadays.

I would be pleased with a banana sitting on our bench as long as we have competitive and psychically stable team for top 3.

 

[ScottishInterista]

Second or third would be fine for next season and spalletti proved he can fight for that and get there more often than not. So I'm ok with him. Of course I won't complain of we manage to get in the fight for the title,. but I don't know if the guy is up to the task.

Im happy with 4th, the 4 team CL comes in next season doesnt it?

 

[sanka]

Spalletti surely will serve the purpose of bringing him here. But i don't see him as a coach who can manage a CL club besides the main goal of reaching 4th spot.

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