La Curva Nord

[ElDuccio]

what happend is really disgusting, i read that fathers got punshed in front of their kids. People that bought a ticket, made 600KM to watch the game was obbligated to leave the stadium.. madness.

 

[Pimpin]

This guy was a criminal. 26 years in prison for drug dealing, robbery, kidnapping and so on. Why am I not surprised that such a guy is glorified by our Curva? And why am I not surprised by its behaviour?

mate ive been saying this for so long, people have a hard on for these losers as they have nothing in their pathetic lifes aside from football and shitty crime

 

[Puma]

And then people wonder why Italian football as a product is so unappealing and why the television rights pay so poorly.

 

[Stefan]

Club is looking to identify the people responsible.

Curva Nord? L’Inter si è subito dissociata: “E ora il club sta valutando di…”

Il club aspetta di avere notizie pure dalla Digos che sta analizzando la situazione, probabilmente con l’ausilio delle immagini delle telecamere

www.fcinter1908.it

 

[Puma]

Club is looking to identify the people responsible.

And then give them free tickets once the smoke clears.

 

[Materazzi_23]

They should make the Ultra sections smaller so that only them can go there.

I agree that's how it works with Ultras but I've understood there are still thousands of seats in the Curva. It can't be that ultra groups control all those seats because there are not thousands of ultra members there.

Reference to Juve, they don't have ultras in their stadium at all because Agnelli is at war with them. I could guess it's related to these type of issues + blackmailing tickets for cheap/free. I'd rather have the ultras there but they need to be contained.

This will always be the case with football. The clubs need the Ultras but they rather not have them. It' about controlling the environment and like you said the sections should be smaller and imo only available for season card holders so you avoid this kind of mess.

Because it's absurd that families and childrens can me forced to leave the stadium by some thugs.

 

[CafeCordoba]

They have basically erased the ultra problem in EPL. Which is why it is so plastic but also easier to sell to the public.

But ultras bring a lot of value also to the equation, clubs just need to find a way to control the whole thing.

 

[Bergpavian]

Plastic ... For me at home it's no difference on the TV screen watching a Serie A game or an EPL game. Well, the production value is much higher in the EPL.

And in the stadium ... I really don't care. A good atmosphere is important, yes. But this monotonous singsong for 90 minutes isn't that important for me.

 

[brehme1989]

Plastic ... For me at home it's no difference on the TV screen watching a Serie A game or an EPL game. Well, the production value is much higher in the EPL.

Wow

Don't forget to unmute.

And in the stadium ... I really don't care. A good atmosphere is important, yes. But this monotonous singsong for 90 minutes isn't that important for me.

I'm not sure I follow whether this is your PL viewership talking or nothing substantial at all.

Have you actually been to any football games?

 

[Il Drago]

They have basically erased the ultra problem in EPL. Which is why it is so plastic but also easier to sell to the public.

But ultras bring a lot of value also to the equation, clubs just need to find a way to control the whole thing.

They haven't exactly solved the ultra problem. They just kicked them out of the stadiums. And that's why there are a lot more incidents with English ultras outside England than in the country.

 

[brehme1989]

They haven't exactly solved the ultra problem. They just kicked them out of the stadiums. And that's why there are a lot more incidents with English ultras outside England than in the country.

Oh there are incidents in England as well, they just hush them.

In every city and town actually. It never makes the news. If there's an injury they just say it was a random fight.

A friend of mine runs a security company which looks after a stadium in the north in particular and he tells me that their guys are called by the police and the ambulance to help them. And they're also asked to go to away games at times because fights break out all the time.

There's this propaganda in England that they've eradicated their hooliganism but it remains one of the worst places out there.

 

[Bergpavian]

Wow

Don't forget to unmute.

It doesn't matter at all. The microphones are always over the same guys who make noise anyway. But keep telling the fairy tale that the atmosphere for a person who watches a lousy produced Serie A game on TV is much better than watching an EPL game. Especially when you have the amazing Ultras that you can see for ... 2 minutes every game? More often you see old stadiums in which a third of the stands are empty on average.

I'm not sure I follow whether this is your PL viewership talking or nothing substantial at all.

Have you actually been to any football games?

Nah, sorry. You're the only one.

 

[brehme1989]

It doesn't matter at all. The microphones are always over the same guys who make noise anyway.

Erm, there are microphones at PL stadiums actually. They are there to enhance background noise.
In rest of Europe what television broadcast does is REDUCE natural sound because the sportcasting cannot be heard.

But keep telling the fairy tale that the atmosphere for a person who watches a lousy produced Serie A game on TV is much better than watching an EPL game.

Not sure what this has to do with actual stadium atmosphere. You're supporting that an illusion is better than reality and I'm not going in that rabbit hole. But say hi to Alice for me.

Especially when you have the amazing Ultras that you can see for ... 2 minutes every game? More often you see old stadiums in which a third of the stands are empty on average.

Infrastructure problems in Italy has nothing to do with actual atmosphere.

Nah, sorry. You're the only one.

It appears so.

 

[Harpsabu]

Plastic ... For me at home it's no difference on the TV screen watching a Serie A game or an EPL game. Well, the production value is much higher in the EPL.

And in the stadium ... I really don't care. A good atmosphere is important, yes. But this monotonous singsong for 90 minutes isn't that important for me.

Liverpool for example actually blast out crowd noise through the speakers at times to create artificial atmosphere. As brehme says they also place speakers all around the ground for it to seem louder.

The artificial atmosphere is shameless. But placing microphones around is a great idea and other broadcasters should do the same imo.

Being at the match, nah you absolutely want the singing. Problem is, it's the two sets of ultras who sing the whole game, other than that at times you could hear a pin drop. That's why it's so delicate, get rid of them you remove your atmosphere.

Also agree with brehme on England's ultra problem being hidden. Ultra problem and racism in England always brushed over really quickly. Helps that the club actually takes swift action though.

 

[Adriano@10]

LOL comparing EPL atmposphere to serie a is hilarious... fuck the EPL probably only barca has worse less engaged fans...
Yes they sign and shit but it s nothing compared to serie a ultras....

Thing is i would just really fucken love if the Ultras could finally except that Football is a business and their behavior quite often hurts the club more then it does good. Like i know these dudes love inter but they constantly do dumb shit that hurt us and yes modern football has it s bad sides but just going no al calcio moderno does not solve any fucken thing. Matter of fact it throws us back if anything.

 

[Stefan]

You want the ultras but you don't want the criminal elements of them. Don't think it should be a choice of accepting ultras with the criminals or no ultras.

The police have identified some of the responsible parties.

Inter-Samp, Digos individua ultras che hanno costretto tifosi a lasciare la Curva

Gli agenti della Digos della questura di Milano hanno individuato alcuni ultras che hanno provocato il deflusso dalla Curva Nord

www.fcinter1908.it

 

[Capo]

Smh - how can there not be a police presence in the stadium to keep families safe?


All for the Theatrics, but why should families give a fuck if someone got popped for his lifestyle choice because they shared the same love for Inter. In nonsensical....

 

[brehme1989]

Smh - how can there not be a police presence in the stadium to keep families safe?

Police makes things worse.

Tickets shouldn't be sold at the Curva, end of story. People who think they'll watch the game or be part of an experience should be fully aware of what they're signing up to.

If you like to see the Curva singing and demonstrating flags and coreos, watch them from afar. If youre not one of them, you're not very likely going to enjoy their ways.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah, they should limit the area where Ultra groups can be and indeed not sell tickets to those areas at all (reserved only for ultra groups).

 

[junior55]

There is no reason to mix and match the concept of an organized fan club who go into the stadium and cheer for 90 minutes for their club with the concept of Ultras.

Inter has a lot of fun clubs in Italy and out of Italy who are organized and go in the stadium with the only purpose to cheer for their team. They don't feel entitled to get free tickets or extra favors because they are paying for a membership fee or because they are going in the stadium more often than the general fan.

Ultras on the other and is a culture of violence. It has nothing to do with sportsmanship , nothing to do with the love for the club and nothing to do with the atmosphere in the match. Ultras culture needs to be punished by law and the leaders who incite violent behavior need to be identified and arrested as simple as that.
I have been part of both worlds ( ultras and just normal fun clubs) and i can tell you that there is a major difference between them. Both are fans of the club but ultrases do not love it more than the others , nor sacrifice more they just like the culture of violence. As a fun club you gather , you discuss about the match , the players , the tactics and together go watch the match.
As an ultras , you gather , you do discuss about the team but mostly you focus on the opposition fans , you plan what to do to SHOW them , how to steal their banners , how to throw blasters on their side of the stadium and how to make noise. As an ultras you want to be noticed , you want the medias to speak about you and you want to be PART of the match. As a club fan , you don't want to be a protagonist , you go there to serve the club ( cheer to motivate) not for the club to serve you.