Kristjan Asllani

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  • 3 - Anonymous player who will never be remembered through the fact nobody expected anything from him

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  • 2 - Close to a useless player, who will add nothing to the team besides filling the CL quota

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  • 1 - Crap, shit, useless player, worst business ever, Mancini, Quaresma and Gresko combined

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CafeCordoba

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Allegri and Mourinho won league titles too

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Yeah, though not with youngsters.
 

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As long as Inzaghi is the coach youngsters won't play at Inter.
I'd like to see these stats adjusted for given minutes but there seems to be an undeniable trend.

In any case, I was talking about not playing players we paid €25m for, it'd be a problem even if they weren't youngsters.
 

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If there was no space for him, he shouldn't have been here. He had 5 months of pro football before joining Inter and he's wasting precious development time by rotting on the bench.

Imo he's one of our most technical players, but without playing time, you will just end up regressing.
 

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Take it easy guys. :lol:

He's 20 years old, he will absorb all the stuff from our players even if he doesn't play in matches. Playing in a match is 90 or max 180 minutes of the week's time. He's in the trainings almost every day, it's not like it all goes in vain because he doesn't play much.
 
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There's no reason to overanalyze things. Inzaghi just doesn't play youngsters. It's that simple. And it isn't an issue that started at Inter. It has always been an issue since the start of his coaching career. Here's an article from 2021 at a Lazio fansite:

And how did each of their careers pan out thus far? or is inzaghi to blame for that too?
 

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There's no reason to overanalyze things. Inzaghi just doesn't play youngsters. It's that simple. And it isn't an issue that started at Inter. It has always been an issue since the start of his coaching career. Here's an article from 2021 at a Lazio fansite:


It's not a coincidence his squads are always some of the oldest in the league. He inherited the 3rd youngest squad in Serie A when he took over at Lazio in 2016/17. Take a look how it progressed in the following years:

SeasonAverage AgeSerie A Average Age Rank
2016/1725.53rd
2017/1826.59th
2018/1927.614th
2019/2027.716th
2020/212920th

At Inter he already inherited an old squad (3rd oldest at the time - 28 average age) but we have become even older despite offloading Perisic, Alexis, Vidal, Kolarov and Ranocchia (28.9 in 2021/22, 28.3 in 2022/23 - both ranked at 20th).

As long as Inzaghi is the coach youngsters won't play at Inter.

I appreciate how well this is put together, but I am not sure if it is a fair assessment if Inzaghi is a coach to play youngsters or not.
Unless he has direct control over the transfer market, the average age of a squad does not indicate his preferences; it rather indicates his given options.

Like our squad has gotten older, not because of Inzaghi, but because of our club's transfer strategy, so was Lazio back then.

Checking back Lazio's transfers, it seems like they lost playable young players and may or may not replace with old players, which I don't think it was what he wished for (e.g. de Virj, Anderson >> Rudu/Acerbi; plus the squad ages itself as 1 year passes)

Also Keita Baldé and Correa had more play time than Felipe Caicedo; SMS and Luis Alberto played even when they had Parolo etc.
 

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I appreciate how well this is put together, but I am not sure if it is a fair assessment if Inzaghi is a coach to play youngsters or not.
Unless he has direct control over the transfer market, the average age of a squad does not indicate his preferences; it rather indicates his given options.

Like our squad has gotten older, not because of Inzaghi, but because of our club's transfer strategy, so was Lazio back then.

Checking back Lazio's transfers, it seems like they lost playable young players and may or may not replace with old players, which I don't think it was what he wished for (e.g. de Virj, Anderson >> Rudu/Acerbi; plus the squad ages itself as 1 year passes)

Also Keita Baldé and Correa had more play time than Felipe Caicedo; SMS and Luis Alberto played even when they had Parolo etc
Inter's founder should try to bring Igli Tare as Inzaghi advisor and Inter CEO replace Marotta. Tare and Inzaghi can prove themselves work together with utter-low budget conditions.
 

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he already played more than I expected
 

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I remember reading an interview from like 15 years ago or seomthing. Can't remember his name, but he was a famous coach/player active in Italia. But I remember that part of the interview where he said that because of the general mindset in Italia that solely focus on the results, the players are usually very nervous before every match and the coaches are afraid losing might cost them their job in a very short time.

That might still be the driving force behind why the youngaters don't get a fair amount of game time in Italia. There is not any logic behind choosing average older players over youngsters. It's just a bad habit turning into a trend in this country and Inzaghi is doing that as well.
 

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I remember reading an interview from like 15 years ago or seomthing. Can't remember his name, but he was a famous coach/player active in Italia. But I remember that part of the interview where he said that because of the general mindset in Italia that solely focus on the results, the players are usually very nervous before every match and the coaches are afraid losing might cost them their job in a very short time.
I think this is definitely part of it. Lack of patience. Also the rigidly tactial nature of yhe league. But serie a has seen its fair share of youngsters over the years get a chance, from del piero, ventola, Aquilani, baroni, cassano, ogbonna, santon, etc. I think it's fair to say that those who weren't given the chance ultimately didn't make it at top level. There's also the opportunity to move to another country like Bobo and Gattuso did. German teams are constantly looking out for young talented youngsters but I don't see or hear of any Italian youth on their radars. Maybe the kids just suck.
 

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I think this is definitely part of it. Lack of patience. Also the rigidly tactial nature of yhe league. But serie a has seen its fair share of youngsters over the years get a chance, from del piero, ventola, Aquilani, baroni, cassano, ogbonna, santon, etc. I think it's fair to say that those who weren't given the chance ultimately didn't make it at top level. There's also the opportunity to move to another country like Bobo and Gattuso did. German teams are constantly looking out for young talented youngsters but I don't see or hear of any Italian youth on their radars. Maybe the kids just suck.
An entire nation's kids cannot suck, specially a country with a rich history in football. It's mostly a systematic thing which needs to find and develop the young players. Development is very crucial in a player's career and several factors are invovled in how a player's development goes. Many talented players are/were out there but not many go anywhere close to the elite level.

I see a drop in football talents worldwide compared to the past decades, but I don't believe italian kids just suck that's why italians coaches prefer older players (who suck as well) to them. It's the general mindset in Italia which needs to change.
 

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An entire nation's kids cannot suck, specially a country with a rich history in football. It's mostly a systematic thing which needs to find and develop the young players.
I agree there's a systematic problem and push for instant success, but if the problem is solely Italian managers then why arent foreign scouts and managers recruiting Italian youth? scammaca, fratessi, pellegrini, pessina, kumbulla, etc once considered special talents are warming the bench at their reapective clubs. It's not just the coaches, player quality is also lacking.
 

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I agree there's a systematic problem and push for instant success, but if the problem is solely Italian managers then why arent foreign scouts and managers recruiting Italian youth? scammaca, fratessi, pellegrini, pessina, kumbulla, etc once considered special talents are warming the bench at their reapective clubs. It's not just the coaches, player quality is also lacking.
The problem is not solely italian managers, but these managers reflect on what is a nationwide attitude toward the youth.

As for why italian youth is not recruited by the foreign scouts and managers, that should be answered by those who train and develop these players from a very young age. I cannot answer that cause I don't know the details. But hearing from some italians myself, they believe the talent is there, it's just not properly nurtured and developed.
 

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I agree there's a systematic problem and push for instant success, but if the problem is solely Italian managers then why arent foreign scouts and managers recruiting Italian youth? scammaca, fratessi, pellegrini, pessina, kumbulla, etc once considered special talents are warming the bench at their reapective clubs. It's not just the coaches, player quality is also lacking.
It's more than just managers, but the youth academy system as well.
I don't remember the like of frattesi or pessina etc considered "special talent" (outside the usual hypes noise, off course). At least not like how cassano or balotelli type of "special talent". BTW out of five players you mentioned, only kumbulla is proper bench warmer, scamaca play regularly enough before his injury. The other three are starters at their respective teams.
 

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Italian football grew complacent due to its dominance until the early noughties.

The way footballers are raised and football is played change drastically since then but the clubs and the federation have not adapted accordingly. There isn't a strong enough emphasis on development in the clubs' agendas. There just aren't enough well-equipped youth level coaches. The grassroots culture is waning. The facilities are destitute. More than half the stadiums are derelict. People don't fill said stadiums consistently enough. FIGC doesn't enforce correct youth policies. The fanbases are too impatient and fickle.

However, I feel like all this was realized in the past few years, and it's all slowly changing. It'll take a long while (perhaps around ten years) until we see the final stage of the transformation, and perhaps a new golden generation of Italian footballers will only come around ten years after that, but it will happen. There are too many people passionate about football in the country for it not to happen.

The main issue is money. Most owners suck -- they either don't have enough money or spend it like there's no tomorrow. Italian football is filled with great brands due to that past domination. Sooner or later, proper managements will take over because there won't be any clubs left to buy in England, and when that happens, it'll hasten this transformation.
 

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based on 15 m invested at him, his minutes still critically low tbh
And the issue is that he wasn't poor in any of those minutes. It's not like Bellanova for example, who had a really bad performance against Empoli.
 
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