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Coutinho and Kovacic were 18 and 19 respectively when they played for Inter, not 24 years old and still can't shoot.
 

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Coutinho and Kovacic were 18 and 19 respectively when they played for Inter, not 24 years old and still can't shoot.

There isnt about age only, there is alot of example great player when they play for Inter they only able to unleash their half of potential not only Joao Mario. He score 6 goal and 11 assist season before arrive to Italy and its not like he never scored some golazo before, the question is why? Even for someone like Perisic or Candreva they also hardly replicate their scoring rate while playing for Inter.

And when look at it again, our other midfield also wasted as much as chances with their chicken shoot, but ofc people only targeting Joao Mario since he is an easy target and people always feel threathen with his price tag. Its was indeed a mistake by Suning when they trust to KIA on their first year, but even if Joao Mario eventually leave, people probably will find another player to shitting on. They already start with Gagliardini, and probably Vecino will run out his honeymoon period and being new target if Joao Mario leave since on another thread there is someone who already comparing his price with Paredes price and amount of goal+assist they had this season.
 

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Joao Mario seems to have suffered a big dip in confidence from being benched and his inability to score. Shooting was never his strong suit, but it looks like he's let that affect the rest of his game too. Now he's playing much more passively and doesn't work as hard defensively, which is definitely not something Spalletti wants. But he clearly has the ability, and we've seen good stuff from him before, so I wouldn't be so hasty to give up on him just yet.

Idk about Cancelo, he had some awful passes against Pordenone, but maybe he was too eager to impress or too nervous.
 

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There isnt about age only, there is alot of example great player when they play for Inter they only able to unleash their half of potential not only Joao Mario. He score 6 goal and 11 assist season before arrive to Italy and its not like he never scored some golazo before, the question is why? Even for someone like Perisic or Candreva they also hardly replicate their scoring rate while playing for Inter.

And when look at it again, our other midfield also wasted as much as chances with their chicken shoot, but ofc people only targeting Joao Mario since he is an easy target and people always feel threathen with his price tag. Its was indeed a mistake by Suning when they trust to KIA on their first year, but even if Joao Mario eventually leave, people probably will find another player to shitting on. They already start with Gagliardini, and probably Vecino will run out his honeymoon period and being new target if Joao Mario leave since on another thread there is someone who already comparing his price with Paredes price and amount of goal+assist they had this season.

Lol. What a bias opinion.

Our midfielders try long ranges which are not their forte. Joao Mario failed to do tap ins and for the record not once or twice. He gets into a good position yet he can never finish the job. Most of the time he shoots right at the goalie. Very rarely our midfielders have the chances as much as Mario. If there is one to compare is Brozovic. But lets be honest, Brozovic would finish most of the chances that Mario missed.

You were comparing Mario shooting ability against Kovacic and Coutinho. You said age isnt the reason. It it not but Kovacic and Coutinho arrived as a raw talent like Icardi as well. But with times they developed. Mario arrived as someone who should make an impact. He has some talents but his shooting skills are very poor and it has affected him so much to an extent he doesnt even bother to improve.

Speaking of golazo. Fredy Guarin scored some golazo in the same league where Mario came from. Both failed to make an impact. So their experiences in that league isnt something to be proud of really. Barely remember someone who came out from that league and made an impact in their new teams.

Unfortunately Mario isnt a good AM. He lacks the shooting skills, he isnt creative enough, lately he is very slow in the build up as well. Most of his passing are backward nowadays. He doesnt mobilise much that makes our wings are quite static as well. Unfortunately he is losing his spot in the team. He is not a good winger and not a good AM. He cant replace Vecino Gagliardini bcs he is lazy to defend as well. He needs to pull his head out of his ass or else we shall sail away and say goodbye.

Gagliardini has been pretty shit as well but at least he works hard. He makes a lot of mistakes. Joao Mario has been lazy. The last time he came in as a sub, he actually ran less than Valero who has played 75 mins. I can tolerate players who makes mistakes and works his ass more than a diva who is lazy and when he has the chance to play.. he has tonsilitis. Lol.
 

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After 1 season people still didn't want to past judgement on Gabigol because he hadn't played enough but you all on fucking Cancelo like he has played worse than Nagatomo.
 

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Joao Mario seems to have suffered a big dip in confidence from being benched and his inability to score. Shooting was never his strong suit, but it looks like he's let that affect the rest of his game too. Now he's playing much more passively and doesn't work as hard defensively, which is definitely not something Spalletti wants. But he clearly has the ability, and we've seen good stuff from him before, so I wouldn't be so hasty to give up on him just yet.

Idk about Cancelo, he had some awful passes against Pordenone, but maybe he was too eager to impress or too nervous.

As others have mentioned, Cancelo, despite many garbage crosses against Pordenone, also did tee up teammates for three very easy chances which they inexplicably missed. As for Joao Mario, I agree with your assessment and it's strange because he was like a breath of fresh air in those early matches where he came on as a sub. Then when he started matches, he was nowhere near as effective and he's pretty much been a non-factor since then.

Lol. What a bias opinion.

Our midfielders try long ranges which are not their forte. Joao Mario failed to do tap ins and for the record not once or twice. He gets into a good position yet he can never finish the job. Most of the time he shoots right at the goalie. Very rarely our midfielders have the chances as much as Mario. If there is one to compare is Brozovic. But lets be honest, Brozovic would finish most of the chances that Mario missed.

You were comparing Mario shooting ability against Kovacic and Coutinho. You said age isnt the reason. It it not but Kovacic and Coutinho arrived as a raw talent like Icardi as well. But with times they developed. Mario arrived as someone who should make an impact. He has some talents but his shooting skills are very poor and it has affected him so much to an extent he doesnt even bother to improve.

Speaking of golazo. Fredy Guarin scored some golazo in the same league where Mario came from. Both failed to make an impact. So their experiences in that league isnt something to be proud of really. Barely remember someone who came out from that league and made an impact in their new teams.

Unfortunately Mario isnt a good AM. He lacks the shooting skills, he isnt creative enough, lately he is very slow in the build up as well. Most of his passing are backward nowadays. He doesnt mobilise much that makes our wings are quite static as well. Unfortunately he is losing his spot in the team. He is not a good winger and not a good AM. He cant replace Vecino Gagliardini bcs he is lazy to defend as well. He needs to pull his head out of his ass or else we shall sail away and say goodbye.

Gagliardini has been pretty shit as well but at least he works hard. He makes a lot of mistakes. Joao Mario has been lazy. The last time he came in as a sub, he actually ran less than Valero who has played 75 mins. I can tolerate players who makes mistakes and works his ass more than a diva who is lazy and when he has the chance to play.. he has tonsilitis. Lol.

I agree with most of this but I'm not sure about the lazy part. That seems to the biggest criticism of your post but I personally haven't seen that level of laziness that you're describing. As for your last statement, yea, that's what shits me. Just when he might have the chance to be a protagonist - in a Coppa Italia match against a Serie C team, and as a sub in a stubborn match vs Udinese, he's fucking sick with tonsillitis of all things, AGAIN.
 

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People made Cancelo and Joao Mario sound like another Schelotto and Kuzmanovic is just laughable. We just never learn..

It's not the case I think everyone is frustrated about how good both can be but they are not showing it. I think it's more the case with Mario since Cancelo hasn't had too many opportunities.

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Lol. What a bias opinion.

Our midfielders try long ranges which are not their forte. Joao Mario failed to do tap ins and for the record not once or twice. He gets into a good position yet he can never finish the job. Most of the time he shoots right at the goalie. Very rarely our midfielders have the chances as much as Mario. If there is one to compare is Brozovic. But lets be honest, Brozovic would finish most of the chances that Mario missed.

You were comparing Mario shooting ability against Kovacic and Coutinho. You said age isnt the reason. It it not but Kovacic and Coutinho arrived as a raw talent like Icardi as well. But with times they developed. Mario arrived as someone who should make an impact. He has some talents but his shooting skills are very poor and it has affected him so much to an extent he doesnt even bother to improve.

Speaking of golazo. Fredy Guarin scored some golazo in the same league where Mario came from. Both failed to make an impact. So their experiences in that league isnt something to be proud of really. Barely remember someone who came out from that league and made an impact in their new teams.

Unfortunately Mario isnt a good AM. He lacks the shooting skills, he isnt creative enough, lately he is very slow in the build up as well. Most of his passing are backward nowadays. He doesnt mobilise much that makes our wings are quite static as well. Unfortunately he is losing his spot in the team. He is not a good winger and not a good AM. He cant replace Vecino Gagliardini bcs he is lazy to defend as well. He needs to pull his head out of his ass or else we shall sail away and say goodbye.

Gagliardini has been pretty shit as well but at least he works hard. He makes a lot of mistakes. Joao Mario has been lazy. The last time he came in as a sub, he actually ran less than Valero who has played 75 mins. I can tolerate players who makes mistakes and works his ass more than a diva who is lazy and when he has the chance to play.. he has tonsilitis. Lol.

I think Gagliardini gives us a balance that Brozovic doesn't give us, I'd rather have him in midfield.

On Mario I agree with everything you said, and considering his skill set and what we've seen in the Euros should we just say fuck it and use him as a winger?
 

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After 1 season people still didn't want to past judgement on Gabigol because he hadn't played enough but you all on fucking Cancelo like he has played worse than Nagatomo.

I am done with Gabigol actually. My opinion is still the same about him. He is a diva and thinks full of himself. Tactically inept. Limited skills. He thinks he is a phenomenon like Ronaldo. I don't even consider him as an Inter player.

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I think Gagliardini gives us a balance that Brozovic doesn't give us, I'd rather have him in midfield.

On Mario I agree with everything you said, and considering his skill set and what we've seen in the Euros should we just say fuck it and use him as a winger?

Not sure if we is a good winger though. I don't see the flair. He rarely can beat opponent one-on-one which quite needed as a winger. He is probably better off as a RM which unfortunately doesn't have a space at Inter.

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As others have mentioned, Cancelo, despite many garbage crosses against Pordenone, also did tee up teammates for three very easy chances which they inexplicably missed. As for Joao Mario, I agree with your assessment and it's strange because he was like a breath of fresh air in those early matches where he came on as a sub. Then when he started matches, he was nowhere near as effective and he's pretty much been a non-factor since then.



I agree with most of this but I'm not sure about the lazy part. That seems to the biggest criticism of your post but I personally haven't seen that level of laziness that you're describing. As for your last statement, yea, that's what shits me. Just when he might have the chance to be a protagonist - in a Coppa Italia match against a Serie C team, and as a sub in a stubborn match vs Udinese, he's fucking sick with tonsillitis of all things, AGAIN.

I noticed his laziness when he came off bench against Sampdoria. We were defending our lead. He played 20 minutes with 5 passes made (1 of them failed), 0 interceptions, 0 tackles, 0 chances created, 0 crossings. He barely ran around despite he was fresh. He stopped chasing Praet halfway which leading Praet lobbed a good cross to Quagliarella resulted with Sampdoria's second goal. Imo, regardless what happened in the penalty box, the cross should actually be closed down first.

Minute 3:40 of this video showed it. It really pissed me off when a sub is actually doing that shit.

 

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Not to mention he completely forgot about Bonaventura during the derby. He's not a defender and not worth 25 million euros.
 

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Reports from Spain that he wants to return to Valencia at all costs...

Yeah the media likes to talk a lot...99 procent is bullshit anyway so...

Poslano z mojega F5121 z uporabo Tapatalk
 

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Not to mention he completely forgot about Bonaventura during the derby. He's not a defender and not worth 25 million euros.

Not sure if your comment was towards 'Ed.''s post but I believe he was talking about J. Mario. J. Mario definitely was lazy against Sampdoria, so much different from his other sub appearances where he changed the game for us.

With Cancelo, I don't think it's laziness but early on I noticed him pulling out of challenges and not fighting so much.. but I believe that may have to do with him returning earlier from an injury.
 

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I also read that he`s homesick or stuff. Plus he seems to be afraid to take the initiative, I saw him refuse to take a penalty in the Coppa.

I don`t see a future for him in this shirt, so whatever.
 

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There's a zero percent chance we redeem him, but he needs to be here for depth
 

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He was very good at opening counter attacks in second half, didn’t watched first. It’s refreshment to have someone who can bring something extra in attack.

That show how predictable we are, winger who can dribble like Papu Gomez and skillful, creative AM would do wonders for this team.
 

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Absolutely, he wont be here by June unless he develops like crazy
 

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Our liveliest player today, but his defending is Serie-C tier :chan:. Conceded too many fouls, got away from one obvious penalty call, and undiscpline in attack.
Although his defence needs major improvement, we direly need attacking fullback instead of neutral fullback like we currently have. I hope he stays and develops his game further with us.
 

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He might has played great overally, but he was at fault for the marking on Falcinelli and the penalty on Berardi that luckily wasn't given. Just like Santon against Udinese.

Tbh, I would consider brink back Yuto to the starting XI.
 

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He might has played great overally, but he was at fault for the marking on Falcinelli and the penalty on Berardi that luckily wasn't given. Just like Santon against Udinese.

Tbh, I would consider brink back Yuto to the starting XI.
That was more of Skriniar's fault. Not the first time he leaves a player unmarked when a cross comes in.
 

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That was more of Skriniar's fault. Not the first time he leaves a player unmarked when a cross comes in.
I accept that was more Skriniar's fault, but Cancelo could react faster when he noticed the situation.
 
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