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This is a comparatively light punishment IMO. I was expecting worse actually. However, the punishment isn't light in itself and this means we'll definitely be playing our qualification and group matches at home in an empty San Siro. However, that cannot be too detrimental as i am sure most teams out there aren't used to playing in such a gigantic stadium as ours with nobody inside. ;)

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English Unimpressed As Uefa Slaps Inter’s Wrist

Reaction in England to Uefa’s punishment of Internazionale has been, in a word, incredulous. Inter have been fined £132,000 by Uefa and must play their next four European games behind closed doors following the crowd disorder that caused Tuesday's Champions League quarter-final second leg tie against AC Milan to be abandoned.

Milan were leading 1-0 at the time, and have been awarded the tie 3-0, for an aggregate victory of 5-0.

Two games will be added to the ban on Inter’s fans if they re-offend within the next three years. The club can appeal against the decision and have three days in which to do so.

Milan goalkeeper Dida was struck on the shoulder by a burning flare as the Inter tifosi rained a hail of missiles onto the pitch following referee Markus Merk’s decision to disallow their team a ‘goal.’

A range of much harsher sanctions was available to Uefa, and when the decision of its Disciplinary Committee was announced on BBC Radio Five Live, the station was inundated with calls and e-mails from English listeners expressing disgust at its leniency.

Reactions ranged from amazement to unsurprised cynicism. Virtually every respondent called the punishment was totally inadequate.

The consensus in England was firstly that Uefa had once again shamefully ‘ducked’ the opportunity to come down hard on a serious situation by throwing Inter out of its competitions. Secondly that such mild punishment – seen in the UK as little more than a slap on the wrist for a club of Inter’s financial resources – would provide little or no deterrence to fans of Inter or any other Italian club from staging such disturbances again. And thirdly that, had the perpetrators of the mayhem been fans of an English club, that club would have been summarily kicked out of the Champions League for at least the following season – the implication being that Uefa is terrified of standing up to powerful Italian clubs.

Of course, a powerful counter argument to this somewhat cynical point of view is that when English clubs were banned – for five years – it was because violence by some of them had triggered a stampede that led to 39 deaths. The consequences of the mayhem at the San Siro were mercifully far less disastrous.

On the other hand, it is now 20 years since Heysel, and all the experience and intelligence that is now available to clubs, in the wake of largely successful English attempts to eradicate hooliganism inside stadiums, should be routinely deployed. Clubs and football authorities who fail to take adequate steps to control the problem rightly risk being accused of wilful neglect.

As for Uefa, many increasingly despair of its lack of moral leadership. The derisory attempts to admonish clubs whose fans feel free to indyulge in crass racism is a case in point. The response to the goings on at the San Siro will be seen by many as another abdication of responsibility.

For its part, Uefa believes it has acted tough. Uefa spokesman William Gaillard defended the level of punishment saying: "There will be some people who think it is lenient and some people who think it harsh.

"This is the largest fine in Uefa’s history. The loss of four home games amounts to seven or eight million euros.

"It is a hefty punishment compared to anything that has been done for over five years.

"This kind of behaviour is clearly not acceptable and if any more trouble occurs it is obvious that they would get something heavier."

Inter, it should be noted, have ‘previous.’ In 2001 they were ordered to play two European matches away from the San Siro and fined £35,000 after similar crowd trouble at their Uefa Cup tie against Spanish side Alaves.

Uefa clearly believes more of the same will do the trick. We shall have to wait and see if they are right.

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four European games behind closed doors home match is really hurt.....

IMO 2~3 European games behind closed door home game enough!!!!! scare elimination. :scared:
 

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Ok'ish punishment if you ask me.
One good thing out of lost income is that we hopefully wont be too active in the transfer market. ;)
 

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How can England complain about the punishment? This isn't Heysel where people where facking killed. Dida was struck in the shoulder because of his own stupiditity. Nothing more, nothing less.

4 games and a pretty hefty fine should be more than enough and I'm satisfied with UEFA's decision.
 

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Tommi said:
I dont think those gate receipts will kill us. Just sell Vieri for a million, Adriano for two millions and that´s it.

No, I didn't just read that, what? Don T wants Vieri to be sold!!! Oh man, I guess people change after all. Oh...wait, Okay, I see the ironic satire in the statement :depress: . But if Vieri takes a pay cut like that of Recoba and reduces his salary to 1.2M-1.8M, then it's okay. Still, we can make a fortune of his sale, but we don't want to lose Don T.

Milos75 said:
And stop complaining about Cannavaro. He plays no better then at Inter, he only has Buffon to cover for him.

Milos, I LOVE YOU MAN. Great that it came from a unbias (okay, maybe not totally neutral) source like you. I've been arguing for almost a year about this now, but still, most think he is suddenly great, look at the context people.

Milos 4 pres. :star:
 

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First of All Hamed nobody thinks Canna is suddenly great,read posts from last year and u will know.

Second he is better than Miha and Matrix combined,case closed...

Back to the topic,this was a fair punishment now we have to work to get our reputation back to where it was..

Anyone who thought we should be banned from European football can go to hell and kiss my ass on the way...

English fans unimpressed ??!! The hell with them too,at least we didnt kill anyone and the protest (although wrong) did not hurt one single fan from the opposing team.
Plus the English would luv an Italian team out of the CL,that should increase the ability of their crappy hyped up sides to win it easily..
This incident didnt deserve anything more than what it got...

Now i would like to see Merk's punishment along with Sheva's(i know they saw nothing wrong with that) :yuck: :yuck:
 

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About the ticket income:

If the income for a game is around 2 mill Euro, the net profit is less than a million. Don't forget, neither team owns the stadium, so they have to play rental fees, plus all the expenses which the organising takes: staff wages, cleaning, lights, etc etc.

So I don't think that a 4 match ban will have a dramatic cut on the income. As others said before: TV will televise, ergo sponsors will pay.
 

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Zamat said:
About the ticket income:

If the income for a game is around 2 mill Euro, the net profit is less than a million. Don't forget, neither team owns the stadium, so they have to play rental fees, plus all the expenses which the organising takes: staff wages, cleaning, lights, etc etc.

So I don't think that a 4 match ban will have a dramatic cut on the income. As others said before: TV will televise, ergo sponsors will pay.

Arent those costs too? They do get paid whether there are fans or not..

So in ur example instead of getting 2 million revenue and losing one to these costs now we wont get 2 million in revenue and still have to pay 1 million in costs...So we are losing no doubt about that.It will hurt but i hope we can recover.
 

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I will not be dragged into a Canna argument again
I will not be dragged into a Canna argument again
I will not be dragged into a Canna argument again
I will not be dragged into a Canna argument again

About English media, they wanted Inter to be punished so that people would forget their black history. I tell them "Oi, things won't change lads" They had, have and will always have the worse hooligans ever. Please, don't even compare yourselves to us. All they do when travelling is drink beer in away pubs and then insult the opposite fans. Who the hell does that other than them? But they never learn.
 

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Hamed said:
I will not be dragged into a Canna argument again
I will not be dragged into a Canna argument again
I will not be dragged into a Canna argument again
I will not be dragged into a Canna argument again

About English media, they wanted Inter to be punished so that people would forget their black history. I tell them "Oi, things won't change lads" They had, have and will always have the worse hooligans ever. Please, don't even compare yourselves to us. All they do when travelling is drink beer in away pubs and then insult the opposite fans. Who the hell does that other than them? But they never learn.

I think every country has its shair fair of hooligans. I think there is no such thing as worst hooligan, because a hooligan in its definition is already bad.
 

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Hi Facade19, please can you tell me what's in your avatar?
 

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That's either a young Marilyn Manson, or Christina Aguilerra passing through an identity crisis.
 

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Jimmy said:
And while you mention that Milos, we will certainly lose money on TV-rights for the entire group stage as I doubt any TV-stations wants to buy the rights for a game that has no crowds.

A lot of aspects that needs to be considered. Might not be as bad as it sounds at first, but if you start pealing on that orange, you´ll see how much we will in fact lose.

This season even thought roma were playing with no fans in their stadium both games was shown live here so I don't think it matters to tv companies how many fans are at the game it matters to them how many of their audience wants to see the team playing.

Inter is a quite popolour club so I quess we will get live tv games.
 

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Hamed said:
<snip>...but we don't want to lose Don T.
Why would you lose me if Vieri will be sold?

I was Inter fan ´bout ten years before we even signed him dude.
Hamed said:
I will not be dragged into a Canna argument again.
Same.
 

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Ziyad said:
Zamat said:
About the ticket income:

If the income for a game is around 2 mill Euro, the net profit is less than a million. Don't forget, neither team owns the stadium, so they have to play rental fees, plus all the expenses which the organising takes: staff wages, cleaning, lights, etc etc.

So I don't think that a 4 match ban will have a dramatic cut on the income. As others said before: TV will televise, ergo sponsors will pay.

Arent those costs too? They do get paid whether there are fans or not..

So in ur example instead of getting 2 million revenue and losing one to these costs now we wont get 2 million in revenue and still have to pay 1 million in costs...So we are losing no doubt about that.It will hurt but i hope we can recover.

The cost to organise the game would be less since without fans the security required is less plus you don't need to print tickets,match programs,ect. Which saves on costs.
 

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Tommi said:
Why would you lose me if Vieri will be sold?

I was kidding you Don T. :) But if Vieri is sold, there won't be clashes with you and it'd be boring. Hell, keep Vieri. :fero:
 

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Frisko said:
Hi Facade19, please can you tell me what's in your avatar?

Sure, that is the face of a guy named Mana.
He is J-Rocker.
He used to play with a band called Malice Mizer, now he is playing with Mois De Moix.
 

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I apologise for making everyone else sh1t their pants. :D
That would equal, one match for the 3rd round Qualification.
Assume we get through, the other 3 is for our group phase.
If we get past out group phase, then it seems allright.

But we're Inter, we have hardly any motivation..and now with no crowd? :scared:

*assuming we make the CL.
But still, we deserved that, better than not being there at all.
 

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catanha10 said:
But we're Inter, we have hardly any motivation..and now with no crowd? :scared:

Mate don't worry, I am pretty sure the training staff will throw stuff at our opposition to fill in for their crowd.
 

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Good side: We will get to hear Pazza Inter played clearly. :)

Bad side: Fewer games will be televised. :depress:
 
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