Inter - Venezia (3 Nov 24) [1-0]

[nerazzurro4ever]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1853199641090625907

Gobbi tears

This guy's twitter is just 24/7 "marotta league". I guess this was also marotta league.

 

[RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot]

Anytime a woman referee makes any sort of controversial decision there’s going to be rampant sexism around it. Everyone should remember how shit all the men refs are too. If anything you have to be much better as a woman to get the opportunity.

 

[Kramerica Industries]

JFC I was ready to come here and scream my head off about the end of the game. Bisseck is one lucky motherfucker, there was no foul in there, he and Inter are lucky as hell about the handball. Absolutely ridiculous it came to that to escape with three points.

Anytime a woman referee makes any sort of controversial decision there’s going to be rampant sexism around it. Everyone should remember how shit all the men refs are too. If anything you have to be much better as a woman to get the opportunity.

This is just because people suck in general and football culture especially lends itself to "men's men" going on about "men's men" things. What did she get wrong today? I had no problems with the officiating at all. Mind you, I only just now finished watching the game so I've yet to read the thread or general post-game commentary, I'm still far more pissed at our team and what it came down to, that we needed to get lucky as hell to survive this game.

EDIT - reading quite a few comments about why 7 added minutes...as I was watching, I was guessing for quite a while before stoppage time that it would end up being 7 minutes. Can't prove it of course, you guys will either trust me or call me a liar (depending on the day, you're probably right). How it added up to seven minutes? I didn't time any of these things, but there were two VAR checks + Bastoni's injury in addition to the usual substitutions and the one goal scored (that stood). If we figure the subs/goal usually add a token three minutes, and then two VAR checks of about 60-90 seconds and then Bastoni's injury...close enough to seven that I can't really complain about that.

 

[Kramerica Industries]

As an additional aside, I've written these comments twice before about semi-automated VAR:

Offside review shouldn't involve these fucking lines and shit. It should be entirely an eyeball test. If you can't see an advantage gained with your eyes, it's inconsequential. Nitpicky bullshit.

I'd so much rather the VAR check be an eye test, if you see CR7 offside by a full foot against Bayern then by all means change the call because anybody can see that, it's plainly obvious and a mistake by the linesman. Not for this stuff though, not for that Lukaku goal from a week or so ago that got nitpicked away. Not for the goal we got lucky was erased against Monza because Bastoni apparently has a skinny ass. Not a fan, never will be. It's hard enough to score goals in this sport, there's no need to be making it this much more difficult.

(Let the record show that, in both instances, I wrote these comments after goals were disallowed in the favor of the teams I was rooting for on both occasions; Monza-Inter in January of this year and the Germany-Denmark game in the Euros.)

We had one goal disallowed by Dimarco's knee being fractionally offside. We had a penalty kick disallowed because of the toe of Thuram's foot being marginally offside. Imperceptible things to even the world's best trained linesmen. Not things the offside rule was designed to catch.

So without going into the details again, let me just re-affirm my total opposition to semi-automated VAR and move on. I'm glad to have these receipts from when it benefitted me because it allows me to complain when it hurts my team without coming off as a hypocrite. And even in spite of those things, if we'd wound up failing to win this game I would've still put the principal blame on the team for struggling as bad as they did against Venezia to begin with. If it's coming down to VAR calls against this level of opponent, you didn't do enough yourself otherwise.

 

[CafeCordoba]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1853199641090625907

Gobbi tears

The best tears there are.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Anytime a woman referee makes any sort of controversial decision there’s going to be rampant sexism around it. Everyone should remember how shit all the men refs are too. If anything you have to be much better as a woman to get the opportunity.

The funny thing is she wasn't even shit or anything like that. I'd say only mistake was not to call the foul on Sverko jumping on Bisseck's shoulders using both his hands, in equivalence of Dumfries getting called a foul for jumping on whatever that Venezia player was trying to have his best Stryger-Larssen impersonation in the first half.

I've said this before but I actually like hers officiating more than many other's because she actually lets players play and not call every contact a foul.

 

[brehme1989]

JFC

Is that good chicken?

 

[varmin]

I was pretty sure that after Napoli loss, we will choke, but we won somehow.
Let's hope that we will beat those fuckers next week

 

[wera]

Every attack ends up at Sommer restarting it.

I do like that. Let's not force it, I rather keep the ball and wait for space to open up

 

[wera]

FIF ratings be crazy, Dimarco and Sommer not getting at least 6 for this game overall??

 

[bubba zanetti]

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FIF ratings be crazy, Dimarco and Sommer not getting at least 6 for this game overall??

DeVrij man of the match, really

 

[CraigM]

Thank the heavens for Di Marco who is Inter's best player this season by a huge margin and the only player who is playing at the same level, or better, than last season. We bemoan the lack of proper attacking options off the bench, but even were Lautaro and Thuram to stay fit all season and be able to play every game then they are just not efficient enough to take us where we hope to go. The defensive uncertainty has taken a lot of the attention, but the attack is an issue too which seems odd as to the outsider our statistical goals scored record looks absolutely fine.

I had an argument on Twitter with some Inter commentator bloke about what won us the League last season - I said the defence, he said the attack. I looked this up and in terms of the goals conceded v defensive XG, Inter were far and away top with the biggest differential here (-11). Yet at the other end, while they outscored their XG (+3) it was not by a great margin and Milan, Atalanta, Roma and Genoa all outscored their own respective XGs by a greater amount. So Inter were excellent at creating opportunities but not especially effective at finishing them.

A quick look at the comparable attacking stats for this season so far shows us narrowly outscoring our XG (+1) but Monza, Atalanta, Fiorentina. Lazio, Napoli, Torino and Verona all being more efficient. We have the 2nd highest XG but the 8th highest efficiency which is very poor considering the reputation of our main strikers.

 

[CafeCordoba]

So Inter were excellent at creating opportunities but not especially effective at finishing them.

Just like in this match.

 

[Il Drago]

It's always the defence that wins you Scudetto in Italy. And last season Serie A was no exception.

 

[HernanesLeftFoot88]

Apathetic performance from some players yesterday. And Inzaghi keeps running Mkhitaryan into the ground! 3 games in a week again??
Certain players should have been taken off a hell of a lot earlier and some could do with a bench game to remind them to sharpen up (e.g. Thuram). What is the point of having players like Taremi/Augusto if Inzaghi doesnt use them? He makes some odd/muddled decisions.
No idea if we'll beat Arsenal or not but the Napoli game has home loss written all over it!

Respek to the ref - so many sexist, inadequate men out there.

 

[HernanesLeftFoot88]

Hilariously, Football Italia reckons Frank Lampard is one of the "options" to take over at Roma once Juric is inevitably sacked by the players! Are they the new Manchester United?
Hopefully Allegri takes over cos it'll be funny to watch him flipping out again.

 

[Kramerica Industries]

Thank the heavens for Di Marco who is Inter's best player this season by a huge margin and the only player who is playing at the same level, or better, than last season. We bemoan the lack of proper attacking options off the bench, but even were Lautaro and Thuram to stay fit all season and be able to play every game then they are just not efficient enough to take us where we hope to go. The defensive uncertainty has taken a lot of the attention, but the attack is an issue too which seems odd as to the outsider our statistical goals scored record looks absolutely fine.

I had an argument on Twitter with some Inter commentator bloke about what won us the League last season - I said the defence, he said the attack. I looked this up and in terms of the goals conceded v defensive XG, Inter were far and away top with the biggest differential here (-11). Yet at the other end, while they outscored their XG (+3) it was not by a great margin and Milan, Atalanta, Roma and Genoa all outscored their own respective XGs by a greater amount. So Inter were excellent at creating opportunities but not especially effective at finishing them.

A quick look at the comparable attacking stats for this season so far shows us narrowly outscoring our XG (+1) but Monza, Atalanta, Fiorentina. Lazio, Napoli, Torino and Verona all being more efficient. We have the 2nd highest XG but the 8th highest efficiency which is very poor considering the reputation of our main strikers.

I would probably argue in turn that this kind of stat isn't really sustainable on a year-over-year basis. Over- or under-performance of xG (attacking or defensive) can happen in an odd year but Inter allowing 22 goals through an xG of 33 is just plain good fortune. Juventus had an xG against of 31.77 and allowed a total of 31 goals. Two years ago we had an xG against of 36.05 and allowed 42 goals. This year we're at 13.69 and have allowed 13. There's still the broader issue that our xG against is on pace to be much higher than a year ago (we're on pace for 47.2), but our correlation between the two is much more logical this season than it was a year ago.

(And having a great goalkeeper only goes so far as a mitigating factor. Just one quick, somewhat rushed example is Bayern from the last three seasons. Bayern's xG against since 2021-'22 has been: 38.61, 37.01, and 35.22. Their GA in those respective seasons has been 37, 38, and 45, so roughly +2 better, -1 worse, and -10 worse.)

 

[CafeCordoba]

It's always the defence that wins you Scudetto in Italy. And last season Serie A was no exception.

Conte won the Scudetto at Inter by having 24 points, -3p from the top, 15 goals conceded after round 11.

Inter now is at 24 points, -1p from the top, 13 goals conceded after round 11.

Yes, seasons are not comparable and so on, but I continue to say this for as long as the stats do not show terrible for us.

 

[NimAraya]

The ref was good. I don't know why people tend to pull something out of their butt in order to shit on the ref all the time. It's boring and immature.

 

[Alex de Large]

Conte won the Scudetto at Inter by having 24 points, -3p from the top, 15 goals conceded after round 11.

Inter now is at 24 points, -1p from the top, 13 goals conceded after round 11.

Yes, seasons are not comparable and so on, but I continue to say this for as long as the stats do not show terrible for us.

That stat is pretty amazing.
People here"having gotten used to win" a bit, while in Italy the mood i got in Milan is that people is very happy with the team as they see it as the best in Italy with a margin over Juve and Milan, eternal rivals. And Napoli/Conte is just one-season-wonder 2.0, first let's see if they can keep the 1-0's all season...