Inter - Milan (22 Sep 24) [1-2]

[bubba zanetti]

Typical Inter. Instead of continution of building what we started last season, scrooge and poor owner will cost us again to allow beelan's comeback. Always the same. You need to ugrade your roster every year, no matter how you end your season, players needs fresh and new legs and competition inside it. But we have no money to buy anyone who can be relevant here. Management is also to be blamed, they are responsible for not being able to get rid of the trash. This is going to be a long season. We did not strengthen the roster, Mhiki, Acerbi, Darmian are a year older and closer to play in a lower level club. Asslani is simply not good enough, Frattesi is not fit to Limoneball, some players are lazy and don't care for Seria A, we are too frivolous.

 

[vex]

Tbh owners and mngmt are easy targets in our case. Of course, they should have done better but for the start of the season I think it's warranted only to criticize our players and the lack of form and desire we saw, especially last night.

Our players won a league with 20 points advantage, so we know what they are capable off when they are firing on all cylinders, and consequently they have to show better form and take responsibility for the lack of points in the league so far.

 

[Nothing]

You must be Haitian and from Springfield, Ohio!

More like a Haitian who lives in Louisiana lol

 

[CraigM]

A few random thoughts:

It's easy to moan at Inzaghi for taking off key players like Barella and Hakan and replacing them with others who cause the standard to drop, but this is something that people just have to get used to this season as rotation is absolutely essential. Remember Hakan is still recovering from injury so it makes sense not to chance acerbating this and as poor as Asllani and Frattesi were, it's not as if the starters had a grip on the game during their time on the pitch.

Asllani and Frattesi. The former was repeatedly absent and / or contributing nothing defensively when Milan countered into the unusual amount of space they were afforded. I don't know what Asllani is but he's certainly not someone who can anchor your midfield. And the more I see of Frattesi the more disappointed I am. He's a headless chicken who runs about with little direction or sense and manages to see next to nothing of the ball as a result. He has a cheek to expect more starts.

And when it comes to headless chickens there's another compelling contender in Thuram. He works hard and that's something, but not really enough. We bemoan Lautaro being out of form, but at the moment we really have no potent strikers. Thuram is just too random and prone to horrible touches and poor reading of the game, Taremi has shown some decent link up play but has barely had a shot at goal, and we know all about the other pair.

During the summer there was a broad expectation we would try and sign a good CCB and I think not doing that has come back to bite us already. This is a poor team when defending aerially. We conceded headed goals to Monza and Milan, the latter had other good headed chances last night, Man City's best chances were the pair of Gundogan headers near the end. Pavard is surprisingly poor in the air, Bastoni is decent but not outstanding and Acerbi is good, but just not mobile enough to get to where he needs to be to win headers now. It's been a while since De Vrij was dominant in that regard either.

I think the best player they have in that sense is Bisseck who I wish Inzaghi would try out in the central role. If not I would be happy to see him play in his usual right-sided role ahead of Pavard. The Frenchman was really poor last night, but even looking over his Inter career so far has not come close to being the transformative player we might have expected for his fee and reputation. He's not a great defender and it's not like he is some sort of playmaking wizard from the back either - he offers way less than Bastoni and Bisseck here.

 

[bubba zanetti]

Tbh owners and mngmt are easy targets in our case. Of course, they should have done better but for the start of the season I think it's warranted only to criticize our players and the lack of form and desire we saw, especially last night.

Our players won a league with 20 points advantage, so we know what they are capable off when they are firing on all cylinders, and consequently they have to show better form and take responsibility for the lack of points in the league so far.

City who has a great roster is also suffering so I dont se nothing strange here. Problem is that our back ups are not promising(except Carlos, Zielinski and Bisseck(letter two should start),cause we have no money to buy players that can deliver, just scraps from here and there wont do the job. There are enormous amount of games to play and I just dont see how can we overcome and finish victorious in the end, with this roster. You can see many od our starters dont give a fuck about Seria A this season. Cause they will remain, despite that, starters again. Their competition in squad is pathetic. Just look at our bench. You can be great playing in one competition with that . Seria A, Coppa, Supercoppa, New CL plus NT is just too much.

 

[Adriano@10]

Fucked up to lose to this pathetic bbilan side.. and yes they are pathetic....
Anyways we did not play that bad i was mostly missing the grinta like where was the will to win this?
Last couple of derbys we allways balled out this one we just went trough the motions

 

[ElDuccio]

Before the game i was thinking of people comparing Fonseca with De Boer, and how De Boer won against Juve when he was slowly becoming already done at Inter. The situation was similiar, it was the end of September too. I knew it might happen that Fonseca will win his most important game (before leaving), giving Milan fans false hopes like it happend to us with De Boer. The only diffrence is that Juve still won the league that year, Inter for now did not well. Also i was thinking that Fonseca would suprise Inter but Milan wasn't unbeatable yesterday, their defending is still a disaster. We were simply not doing enough to win the game.

 

[ADRossi]

Gazzetta ratings.

 

[brehme1989]

Gazzetta ratings.

Honestly the only thing I have an issue with is giving some Milan players higher ratings
Ours are pretty spot on

 

[Adriano@10]

Honestly the only thing I have an issue with is giving some Milan players higher ratings
Ours are pretty spot on

Yeah the fuck did tammy do for a 6.5?

 

[YoramG]

Yeah the fuck did tammy do for a 6.5?

We really struggled with his movement honestly, I don’t think that’s an unfair rating.

 

[PHM1605]

A few random thoughts:

It's easy to moan at Inzaghi for taking off key players like Barella and Hakan and replacing them with others who cause the standard to drop, but this is something that people just have to get used to this season as rotation is absolutely essential. Remember Hakan is still recovering from injury so it makes sense not to chance acerbating this and as poor as Asllani and Frattesi were, it's not as if the starters had a grip on the game during their time on the pitch.

Asllani and Frattesi. The former was repeatedly absent and / or contributing nothing defensively when Milan countered into the unusual amount of space they were afforded. I don't know what Asllani is but he's certainly not someone who can anchor your midfield. And the more I see of Frattesi the more disappointed I am. He's a headless chicken who runs about with little direction or sense and manages to see next to nothing of the ball as a result. He has a cheek to expect more starts.

And when it comes to headless chickens there's another compelling contender in Thuram. He works hard and that's something, but not really enough. We bemoan Lautaro being out of form, but at the moment we really have no potent strikers. Thuram is just too random and prone to horrible touches and poor reading of the game, Taremi has shown some decent link up play but has barely had a shot at goal, and we know all about the other pair.

During the summer there was a broad expectation we would try and sign a good CCB and I think not doing that has come back to bite us already. This is a poor team when defending aerially. We conceded headed goals to Monza and Milan, the latter had other good headed chances last night, Man City's best chances were the pair of Gundogan headers near the end. Pavard is surprisingly poor in the air, Bastoni is decent but not outstanding and Acerbi is good, but just not mobile enough to get to where he needs to be to win headers now. It's been a while since De Vrij was dominant in that regard either.

I think the best player they have in that sense is Bisseck who I wish Inzaghi would try out in the central role. If not I would be happy to see him play in his usual right-sided role ahead of Pavard. The Frenchman was really poor last night, but even looking over his Inter career so far has not come close to being the transformative player we might have expected for his fee and reputation. He's not a great defender and it's not like he is some sort of playmaking wizard from the back either - he offers way less than Bastoni and Bisseck here.

It's true that rotation is essential. But what happened last night was overkill and moronic. We basically ask our all mid-3 backup to beat Milan.

We shouldn't even beat small teams with such approach. Why can't Inzaghi ease things out i.e. integrating first only Zielinski, when he adapts to starting level integrating another piece with two goals gap... but no, he throws two or three of them into the fire

Check the pattern:
- Genoa equalizer with Frattesi & Asllani.
- Monza opener with Zielinski and Frattesi. With Asllani starter.
- Milan goal with all three.
Midfield is the spine and 2/3 dont know how to run.. recipe for disaster.

 

[.h.]

you also dont rotate 3 midfielders when you're chasing the win in a fucking derby after a shit start to a league season.

 

[brakbrak]

Gazzetta ratings.

Pretty accurate tbh. Probably would have conceded more if it wasn't for Sommer. Only Barella, Dimarco and Sommer came to play. What the hell did Dumfries even do? Nothing.

 

[SiamoNoi]

Must say that overreaction from some here is absolutely hilarious.

 

[YoramG]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1838174307668644134

Nice analysis here in this tweet. Hakan is positioning himself to switch out to Dimarco as soon as he sees that Mkhi will win the ball, because he’s expecting Mkhi to head it down to him first time, which is something we’ve seen over and over with our midfield three. Therefore when Mkhi takes a touch and loses out, EVERYONE is out of position.

Shoutout Pavard for being exceptionally slow to react.

 

[CraigM]

It's true that rotation is essential. But what happened last night was overkill and moronic. We basically ask our all mid-3 backup to beat Milan.

We shouldn't even beat small teams with such approach. Why can't Inzaghi ease things out i.e. integrating first only Zielinski, when he adapts to starting level integrating another piece with two goals gap... but no, he throws two or three of them into the fire

Check the pattern:
- Genoa equalizer with Frattesi & Asllani.
- Monza opener with Zielinski and Frattesi. With Asllani starter.
- Milan goal with all three.
Midfield is the spine and 2/3 dont know how to run.. recipe for disaster.

As I mentioned, the Monza goal and the winner last night were directly caused by the inability of the central defence to cope with an aerial threat - the man closest to Gabbia last night was Frattesi. The midfield issues of course don't help as it invites pressure on in the first place, but there still has to be rotation.

Remember last season players had a summer break and then ultimately Inter did not have as many fixtures as expected (38 + 8 CL + 3 domestic cups = 49). Through a combination of these factors and good fortune, the first-choice midfield trio basically played the entire season with limited cameos from Asllani and Frattesi. That is not sustainable again this season after a summer when players were at international tournaments, there are guaranteed to be at least as many fixtures even if Inter crash out the cups early and Miki is a year older.

The issue is not the rotation, rather the quality of the players stepping up as they will have to, and remember there are only 6 midfielders to select from. Maybe Frattesi and Asllani would be more developed if they had actually played more last season, especially after the title was won and there was no reason to keep playing Miki for 90 minutes every week. That's on Inzaghi, not that he is rotating a lot more now to manage injuries and playing time carefully.

 

[ElDuccio]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1838174307668644134

Nice analysis here in this tweet. Hakan is positioning himself to switch out to Dimarco as soon as he sees that Mkhi will win the ball, because he’s expecting Mkhi to head it down to him first time, which is something we’ve seen over and over with our midfield three. Therefore when Mkhi takes a touch and loses out, EVERYONE is out of position.

Shoutout Pavard for being exceptionally slow to react.

exactly, slow but also amateur defending stuff from him, he did not even try to stop him instead he chooses to run after him. Im done with this guy tbh. too many dumb mistakes

 

[Suraj]

you also dont rotate 3 midfielders when you're chasing the win in a fucking derby after a shit start to a league season.

yeah that was the biggest issue, also we have no midweek fixture after the derby so was probably one of the rare times we could afford to run them to the ground. also next fixtures are easier on paper - udinese, red star, torino

 

[Dave54]

i wonder why Inzaghi brought Frattesi instead of Zielinski?