Henrikh Mkhitaryan

[Dave54]

Good game, bro. a few misplaced passes, but you are under microscope here. Don't pay attention to ratings. The same people downgrading you for nothing. 3:0 win against Napoli in their house, 77 minutes play and you get subbed after 2:0 lead, and you get 5 fucking rating from the same people, not many of them, 5 or 6, who like to see Frattesi play. But he is not ready to feel your spot yet. I still say don't be stupid, take the money and leave for Saudi league if you win Scudetto. Screw the haters, axper.

 

[Besnik]

I find it hard to believe that anyone hates Mkhi. The guy has been crucial in the most critical moments last season. He is still doing very well but he isn't as sharp as usual, which I think he's fatigued. He's been playing consistently.

You can tell he's got great ideas but sadly execution is very poor at times, and that's because he lacks energy in the decisive moment.

His situation reminds me of Dzeko. Limone kept using him until he was completely gassed out and eventually his form dropped by far. I understand that Frattesi and Klassen aren't as good as Mkhi, but as long as we have Sensi fit to play, I think he should be given some minutes to keep Mkhi's energy on point and remain productive, otherwise playing him all the time won't end up well IMHO.

 

[Dave54]

Well, he missed Benfica game to rest. 5 rating is not justifiable. And it will get worse as he ages. People want to see a fresh blood, understandable. He is one of the reason Napoli did not do much offensively, outside of 15-20 minute stretch. Everyone makes mistakes. Barella did several before the assist and goal. Hakan made a few mistakes defensively before his goal. Lautaro did not score an easy one. Dimarco crosses are always shit. But you have to look overall contribution to the team, not cherry pick his passes or execution.

 

[wera]

Yeah dude is hardworking, I just wish he would get subbed off earlier in games. But that's not his fault.

 

[Besnik]

But recovery doesn't work like that. For someone recovery times takes longer than the others, so it's not as easy as it seems on paper.

 

[Dave54]

But recovery doesn't work like that. For someone recovery times takes longer than the others, so it's not as easy as it seems on paper.

He is not injured.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Currently yes, but from now on there are no national teams for quite some time, which means that Mikhi does not need to start every game until March 2024.
Something that Inzaghi does not (yet) understand

I would give any benefit of the doubt to Inzaghi.

It's not even 2024 yet and you complain like this?

 

[Besnik]

He is not injured.

You need to recover from a hard training/work as well. Just like in bodybuilding, recovery is essential to build muscle.

Not exactly the same situation, but for sure recovery is essential in football as well. This is why I meant, some players need longer recovery time to get back in their best. So it depends on age, physical condition and ect.

 

[Dave54]

Yeah dude is hardworking, I just wish he would get subbed off earlier in games. But that's not his fault.

Well, I left a comment during the game. Let us score the 2nd goal and Frattesi can coming, It's not like I'm against Frattesi. But playing Napoli in their house need a couple of goal cushion, before giving Frattesi minutes, who apparently ts not great at the defensive game. Miki does not have play Udineses and other midtable teams. But Juve, Milan, Napoli... he has to be there until things are in our favor.

 

[Dave54]

You need to recover from a hard training/work as well. Just like in bodybuilding, recovery is essential to build muscle.

Not exactly the same situation, but for sure recovery is essential in football as well. This is why I meant, some players need longer recovery time to get back in their best. So it depends on age, physical condition and ect.

Don't you think the coach can not make these calls about his fitness?

 

[wera]

Yeah, I was also mentioning that I can see Inzaghi waiting before making subs and IMO it was the right approach.

 

[Besnik]

Don't you think the coach can not make these calls about his fitness?

Absolutely, but coach can make mistakes as well. I mean, just look at Dzeko situation as an example. He constantly used him although I do admit that he didn't have enough proper options back then, but now in midfield it's not like we don't have quality.

I think there are some occasions while subs could have been made earlier to prevent fatigue.

 

[wera]

Should've been subbed off at least 8 minutes earlier. And yeah I agree with Besnik, it works to prevent fatigue, especially with older players like him. There are probably 30-35 more games to play this season, especially if we go far at least in one cup competition.

 

[Dave54]

Absolutely, but coach can make mistakes as well. I mean, just look at Dzeko situation as an example. He constantly used him although I do admit that he didn't have enough proper options back then, but now in midfield it's not like we don't have quality.

I think there are some occasions while subs could have been made earlier to prevent fatigue.

Bro, Dzeko was completely shot fitness vise. Miki still runs every game 11-12 km.

 

[Besnik]

Bro, Dzeko was completely shot fitness vise. Miki still runs every game 11-12 km.

Dzeko had other responsibilities compared to Mkhi. I'm not here to judge their contributions but each position takes different kind of energy. For example Dzeko used to take care of aerial duels, have far more physical challenges and everything else. That takes extra energy out of your physical condition.

Mkhi seems tireless when it comes to zonal coverage but you can tell he's fatigued when it comes to ball execution. He isn't as sharp as he was earlier.

 

[Dave54]

Dzeko had other responsibilities compared to Mkhi. I'm not here to judge their contributions but each position takes different kind of energy. For example Dzeko used to take care of aerial duels, have far more physical challenges and everything else. That takes extra energy out of your physical condition.

Mkhi seems tireless when it comes to zonal coverage but you can tell he's fatigued when it comes to ball execution. He isn't as sharp as he was earlier.

He was out for half a season, if I remember correctly. Anyways.

 

[bubba zanetti]

Good game, bro. a few misplaced passes, but you are under microscope here. Don't pay attention to ratings. The same people downgrading you for nothing. 3:0 win against Napoli in their house, 77 minutes play and you get subbed after 2:0 lead, and you get 5 fucking rating from the same people, not many of them, 5 or 6, who like to see Frattesi play. But he is not ready to feel your spot yet. I still say don't be stupid, take the money and leave for Saudi league if you win Scudetto. Screw the haters, axper.

I agree totaly with you, hate for Mhiki on this forum is unreal. If you criticize Barella you are fucking hater but its normal to criticize Mhiki who is doing great for most of last two season, despite being 8 years older than Barella, and who did overall more in this time than Barella. But there is no need for you to feel bad about it, we are talking about same people that think Frattesi is better player than Brozovic while they are totally different type of players. Also they are shitting non stop on Dumfries who defensively is eating Leao, Kvara and co, but they fap on Hakimi who plays like shit in PSG, and is totally overrated. And so on and on and on. Golden rule: Dont criticize Barella, Lautaro, Frattesi(LOL) cause then you are a bloody hater. Criticize and shit on Mhiki, Dzeko, Brozo (while they were here) , and especially Dumfries, than its all good man

 

[dax21]

It's not that I disagree but they are of different levels of importance for our game. Mhki is a reliable cog in the wheel, but Barella is the engine, he is of crucial importance for us to function.

 

[Raul Duke]

It's not that I disagree but they are of different levels of importance for our game. Mhki is a reliable cog in the wheel, but Barella is the engine, he is of crucial importance for us to function.

The truth is our game really suffers when either of them are missing. As Besnik mentioned, currently Sensi is the only player capable of filling their spots. I expect Frattesi will grow into the system over time, but whatever side he plays on really suffers.

Miki’s offensive contribution at Inter has been a real disappointment. The guy used to be a goal & assist machine. He was putting out double digit goals and assists at Roma and scored 25 goals at his last Dortmund season. He’s always had a high-risk/high-reward play style, but at Inter we get the worst of both worlds: a hesitation to run forward, peppered with risky turnovers closer to goal. The cautious positioning made sense when Bastoni was bombing up the pitch, but with Bastoni out he needs to take more initiative.

What’s shocked me with him (and Hakan to an even greater extent) has been the defensive knack. He covers the passing channels almost perfectly and usually tops the stats with interceptions.

He’s in the 90th percentile for interceptions. Barella and Hakan are 32nd and 44th respectively. Even against Napoli, he had 6 tackles, twice the number as the next best.

 

[Dave54]

I would definitely rest Miki for upcoming Udinese game, Lecce game and Verona game.