Defenders for the summer market

[snake]

collucini is now at Deportivo.

but to be honest, i rate Burdisso higher then both of them.
Cause atm, Burdisso is beating them for places in the Argentine national squad.

I think our biggest miss, was not signing Jaun Pablo Sorin at Left Back, This guy is bloody awesome, everytime i watch argentina his best on ground, even better then Capitano.

If u talk bad about him, it means u honestly havent watched him enough. His pure class.

 

[il Biscione 84]

ur r8, sorin would've been g8 addition

burdisso is g8 but still coluccini has more experience in europe and milito is doin gr8 2 we need 2 give burdisso more time 2 mature and gain more experience ...

 

[Mikkel]

interbahar I will appreciate if you stoped using numers instead of letters and abbreviation, cause it's really annoying.

 

[Fabio]

You know where I stand here, but I gotta say, "non Italians" just sound terrible, who cares where you were born Fabio? I really don't understand why you bother about that.

I just do bother about that, call me what you want but at the end of the day we are an Italian side and I think that the day that we have 5 Italians regularly starting for Inter will be a very good one. Heck we would still have more foreigners starting!

Fabio :stuckup:

 

[Gismo]

OK...

Toldo

J. Zanetti - Cordoba - Mihajlovic - Favalli

Veron - Cambiasso - C. Zanetti - Stankovic

Vieri - Adriano

Now you may exhange any non-italian player in this lineup and replace it with an Italian of your choice so you have five from Italy. Your job will be to create a team that is better than this (feel free to choose other Italians than those I picked):

My random picked dream team including some good non-Italian players

Dida

J. Zanetti - Cordoba - Samuel - Jankulovski

Veron - Cambiasso - Emerson - Stankovic

Ronaldinho - Martins

Or even this one where I get to choose an Italian of choice too and make this lineup:

Nesta enters only

Carini

J. Zanetti - Cordoba - Nesta - Burdisso

Veron - Cambiasso - C. Zanetti - Stankovic

Adriano Martins

If Italian players are so good as you say they are you would have no problem with this task.

 

[Fabio]

OK this would by me dream (key word)

De Sanctis

J. Zanetti - Cordoba - Nesta - Zambrotta

Barone - Cambiasso - Stankovic

Totti

Martins - Adriano

Of course many of you will argue against this but here are my explanations -

De Sanctis - I rate him higher than all our current 'keepers

Nesta - Would have been brilliant if we got him when we had the chance

Zambrotta - The only Gobbi I like, would solve our LB problems

Barone - I really rate this guy ever since his Parma days and would love him to join

Totti - A genius, would be wonderful

Just to clarify the midfield in this 4-3-1-2 is all central, so there would be no width...

But if I could only add one player in exchange this would be my formation:

Toldo

J. Zanetti - Cordoba - Nesta - Favalli

Veron - Cambiasso - C. Zanetti - Stankovic

Martins - Adriano

OK, I am ready for the insults....

Fabio

 

[Gismo]

You can only choose 1 new Italian player.

It's an interesting dream. But to make it fair you can only pic one new Italian player like I posted before.

 

[Fabio]

OK I have edited my post now...

Fabio :star:

 

[Stefan]

Firstly I really hate this we have to have so many italians in a side debate.

Thank God for laws that make such rules impossible.

I don't caqre where he comes from as long as he plays with pride and for Inter. He could come from mars as far as I am concerned.

Just 1 thing on luisau which we are rumnoured to have signed . I have studied him now for 2 months at benfica and I have to say this guy is nothing special. He really isn't what we need. I hope that rumour is crap.

The defenders we should go for in the market is Ledley King,Juan and Chivu.

1 of those and we will be good.

 

[Tommi]

The italian style of football, you mean like that of Juve? :scared:

You remember Juve when Lippi was their coach? You remember how they totally outplayed R€al in CL? Now Juve has been ultra boring to watch, but that maybe got to do with the amount of creative players in their team. Dont think it´s because of Capello, since Capello did great work with Roma.

Me and Tommi vs The World!´

Me , Fabio and Antti vs The World. :star:

Thank God for laws that make such rules impossible.

Laws are made to be broken.



CONI says half of Italian squads must be 'home grown' players

The Italian Olympic Committee has ruled that, from the 2006-07 season, Italian squads will have to comprise at least 50 per cent 'home grown' players.

The Italian Olympic Committee (CONI) has confirmed a ruling whereby, as from the 2006-07 season, no less than 50 per cent of the players in squads competing in top level championships must be 'home grown' Italians. This means that, say, at least 7 of a football squad of 14 would have to have come through the Italian youth ranks.

I don't caqre where he comes from as long as he plays with pride and for Inter. He could come from mars as far as I am concerned.

Mars?

There´s no humans in Mars. You dont even mind if Robots play in our side?

 

[Frisko]

Thank God for laws that make such rules impossible.

I don't care where he comes from as long as he plays with pride and for Inter. He could come from mars as far as I am concerned.

Amen to that. Well said mate.

 

[Gismo]

I'm not so into these Italian federation rule stuff. Does this mean these rules will actually be implimented, Tommi?

 

[Stefan]

I'm not so into these Italian federation rule stuff. Does this mean these rules will actually be implimented, Tommi?

Those ideas of coni would be illegal. They are against eu laws. So unless italy plans to break away from the eu which I doudt they would be squashed so easy that it won't be worthwile to even introduce. Leggaly all they can do is to set a limit on the number of non eu players. They can't limit eu players.

It would be against freedom of trade and movement laws.

I love that greats laws of the eu.

 

[Tommi]

Sport has a very strong link with national identity and it should be kept in that way. If i watch EPL, i want to see english players, if i watch Primera Liga i want to see spanish players etc. You guys want a full squad of foreigners playing in the 'Italian' league. It wouldnt even be the Italian league anymore. The Italian game would die. What would be the difference between EPL, Primera Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga etc?

I love that greats laws of the eu.

Still many countries break eu law (and i am not talking ´bout football here) and eu doesn´t do anything. Yeah, all hail to EU and their "great laws".

Anyway, back to topic. This is the article from channel 4 that was published in 2004 ->

CONI – the Italian Olympic Committee – are planning to introduce new legislation that would limit the number of overseas players taking part in all Italian team sports.

Under the proposal, Italian clubs must have no more than nine ‘stranieri’ in a squad of 18 on match days from 2006.

"We have no other choice in order to look after the Italian youngsters who want to break into sport," stated CONI chief Gianni Petrucci.

"It is a necessary and an urgent measure. We will fight any club and their lawyers who try to obstruct the move."

Italian football has had foreigner restrictions in place in the past but they were banned in the 1990s due to European law.

However, CONI are confident that they could be successful in getting a limit on non-Italians recognised.

CONI hope that such an idea would help the Italian national side do better in major tournaments after the failures of 2002 and 2004.

They feel that the high number of foreign players in football, and basketball, are hindering the emergence of young Italian athletes.

Also, it´s not only Italy, both England and Spain have been discussing this for a while as well plus several high ranking members of Uefa have also suggested a limit as of late.

 

[Stefan]

Sport has a very strong link with national identity and it should be kept in that way. If i watch EPL, i want to see english players, if i watch Primera Liga i want to see spanish players etc. You guys want a full squad of foreigners playing in the 'Italian' league. It wouldnt even be the Italian league anymore. The Italian game would die. What would be the difference between EPL, Primera Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga etc?

I love that greats laws of the eu.

Still many countries break eu law (and i am not talking ´bout football here) and eu doesn´t do anything. Yeah, all hail to EU and their "great laws".

Anyway, back to topic. This is the article from channel 4 that was published in 2004 ->

CONI – the Italian Olympic Committee – are planning to introduce new legislation that would limit the number of overseas players taking part in all Italian team sports.

Under the proposal, Italian clubs must have no more than nine ‘stranieri’ in a squad of 18 on match days from 2006.

"We have no other choice in order to look after the Italian youngsters who want to break into sport," stated CONI chief Gianni Petrucci.

"It is a necessary and an urgent measure. We will fight any club and their lawyers who try to obstruct the move."

Italian football has had foreigner restrictions in place in the past but they were banned in the 1990s due to European law.

However, CONI are confident that they could be successful in getting a limit on non-Italians recognised.

CONI hope that such an idea would help the Italian national side do better in major tournaments after the failures of 2002 and 2004.

They feel that the high number of foreign players in football, and basketball, are hindering the emergence of young Italian athletes.

Also, it´s not only Italy, both England and Spain have been discussing this for a while as well plus several high ranking members of Uefa have also suggested a limit as of late.

Uefa's idea is different. There's is 3-6 "home grown players". That does not mean italian or any specific nationalaty it just means players who come throught the club's system. Like oba martins would qualify as a home grown player for inter.

That would be perfectly fine since it doesn't controvine any laws. And on people and countries breaking eu laws. The laws you are talking about are totally different 1's. Like I don't see anybody suing any country for going over the agreed budget. But I am almost 100% sure a player or a club from the G14 will sue if this ever comes close to being implemented.

The uefa idea is good to have clubs produce their own players. But now way should it be that you must have so many of a certain country in your side.

But I quess we will never agree on this. Since some here have traditional views while other have more liberal views on this subject.

 

[SB9Dragon]

I'm also against this idea but I must say that these European teams are only doing this to look out for their own talent. Because think about it. With more and more foreigners coming into their leagues that means less chances for their up and coming players which means a lack of chances for their team to gain experience, talent, and to actually progress and get better.

 

[Gismo]

It'll be very interesting indeed to see what happens...

I am against this rule as I frankly see such a rule as national discrimination.

However this would increase our Scudetto and Coppa chances big time. So it would be good for something. CL we will be weaker but all Italian teams will. So it hurts the thrill of CL. But I couldn't care less about that if it means we can have an Italian flag on the jersey.

So I'm basically saying two things:

Vuck any such rule! :thumbsdo:

It would be good for something so I wouldn't go cry about it.

Tommi, you raise some excellent questions. It's interesting that you want to see English players in EPL, etc etc. I agree there is a special feeling about each nations' special play and identity. I guess I know this because I played myself. I must say though, that as much as I'm in love with Italian and Brazilian style of football respectively the clubs in Serie A still play like Italian teams have historically always done.

To make my point clearer I simply prefer to see world class Samuel play Italian style football rather than decent players such as Bonera. That's far more entertaining to me and it keeps the traditions which I understand now I am not alone to like here on the forum. It takes the play to a higher level and thus I feel I get more for the money I pay to watch Serie A on C(anal)+.

Furthermore I don't think it hurts to have 11 non Italians on an Italian team as long as the Italian atmosphere in and around the club is intact and the traditions are kept alive.

 

[Mikkel]

Spot on Gismo.....

I don't even know how they can come op with such a surgestion, they know that it will brake several EU laws, so they can just give it up right away. Cause it would be a total waste of time and money..

And I truely daubt that it will help to make such a rule, cause it will mean that the leavel will drup dramatically, and those players who was used to a better leavel, they wont get the same competition anymore, and that will lead to that thier personal level are gonna fall. And that is without considering the economically aspects. One thing is for sure the major club wont earn as much as they did before, and that will lead to that some of them will go bankrupt.

 

[Tommi]

I know we dont agree ´bout this, but i respect each of your opinions...not!

Furthermore I don't think it hurts to have 11 non Italians on an Italian team as long as the Italian atmosphere in and around the club is intact and the traditions are kept alive.

We have played few matches in this season where there hasn´t been any italians in the team (we´re almost like Arsenal!). I find it extremely sad situation. I have nothing against "foreigners" as you may say, but since we´re an italian team, it should be mandatory to use at least three italian players in every match. What´s the harm? Where would all the new Meazza´s and Bergomi´s come from if we dont give the italian players a chance?

One thing is for sure the major club wont earn as much as they did before, and that will lead to that some of them will go bankrupt.

News flash -> Many of the leading clubs are in severe financial difficulty. The Serie A clubs owe the government more than $500m in back taxes.

I´m sure no club would go to bankrupt if they used more italians (minimum three players).

 

[Mikkel]

Well we where talking abouth 50 % italian, and that will mean that the teams would have less stars, and we all know what merchandise we sell moste off, it is those with the star players name on. And some people only go to the stadium to see the favorite players, so there will be less spectators, and when you losses so many star player it will automatical mean that the level of the play falls, to a lower level. And this again means that some don't wonna use thier money on tickets. I don't think it would be that huge a problem in Italy but it will defently be a problem in Emgland and Spain if the also introduced this rule And the team it will hurt the moste is Real Madrid.