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Lukair said:
Yeah sure. But if you play 2 defensive midfielders in the center all the creation is focused on the wings, and we are no Ascoli, or Catania (no disrespect to them) that we can play there with any players we have. They have to be VERY GOOD wingers.

If CafeCordoba meant that, I have to take back my words.

Yeah, the list is long... Now, Stan is no winger, Cesar is just wondering around, Solari is decent, but we all know how Mancio values him, Javier is no typical winger, and Figo we all know that he is living his second youth :)

From that list you can say Maxwell played very good in Ajax and he can be great winger, but then you have no back up for left back.

I'm so confused right now, and I just want to wake up at 1'st of september and just see straight ahead what squad we'll have without all those emotions and frustration. Maybe it would be easier then.

Javier would be a great winger I think, even though he lacks offensive fibres. He can dribble as a God and cross very well. This is what basically is needed and demanded from a winger. And Maicon was a winger in Brazil before being brought to Monaco, so we might have a few unexpected (for the opponents) aces in our team.
 

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Lukair said:
From that list you can say Maxwell played very good in Ajax and he can be great winger, but then you have no back up for left back.

Well, we can move J.Zanetti to the left and put Maicon on the right, or Grosso on the left, J.Zanetti on the right. We do have many alternatives.

Lukair said:
Yeah sure. But if you play 2 defensive midfielders in the center all the creation is focused on the wings, and we are no Ascoli, or Catania (no disrespect to them) that we can play there with any players we have. They have to be VERY GOOD wingers.

I agree, but I don't think we are going to just attack on the wing. Ibrahimovic is technically very skilled and has the creativity to allow us to attack in the center. Stankovic is no winger of course, but he can cut into the center and act as an AM, that's when we grow strong in the middle. Cambiasso is a two way midfield, although he was played as a defensively minded CM, he can play more aggressively in the coming season, not a new thing to him at all.

Figo or Solari on the otherhand can give us more width in our play, and wth the presence of Vieira, it allows Stan to join the attacking forces more than it allowed him last season.

----------Crespo
---------------------Ibra
---Stan------------------------Figo
---------Cambiasso
------------------------Vieira
 

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Javier would be a great winger I think, even though he lacks offensive fibres. He can dribble as a God and cross very well. This is what basically is needed and demanded from a winger. And Maicon was a winger in Brazil before being brought to Monaco, so we might have a few unexpected (for the opponents) aces in our team.
Hey Capitano is the greatest player in the world to me. And I want to point that out. But lets get things straight.

The advantage with playing as a offensive side back is that you are unpredictable, you don't dribble as much as a winger so opposite players can be easier dribled, and he uses that. But the situation is a lot different if you are a winger.

He has pace, acceleration, STRENGHT (he doesn't dive!) but his ways to drible a player are quite limitless.

One day I thought it would be great to see Javier as a winger, but not anymore. He can play there if he must of course, but not on a weekly basis.
 

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Hey Capitano is the greatest player in the world to me. And I want to point that out. But lets get things straight.

The advantage with playing as a offensive side back is that you are unpredictable, you don't dribble as much as a winger so opposite players can be easier dribled, and he uses that. But the situation is a lot different if you are a winger.

He has pace, acceleration, STRENGHT (he doesn't dive!) but his ways to drible a player are quite limitless.

One day I thought it would be great to see Javier as a winger, but not anymore. He can play there if he must of course, but not on a weekly basis.

Obviously, I wasn't calling for Javier to be a regular winger.

Also, didn't you see him against Villareal? Ok, perhaps his dribbling are somehow predictable, but that didn't prevent him from doing it four or five times more against Villareal. He has an ability to stay close to the ball and remain in total control of it until he either decides to cross, shot or pass to a another Inter player. This makes it very hard to get the ball off him and this can easily be enough.
 

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Forza ragazzi said:
Also, didn't you see him against Villareal? Ok, perhaps his dribbling are somehow predictable, but that didn't prevent him from doing it four or five times more against Villareal. He has an ability to stay close to the ball and remain in total control of it until he either decides to cross, shot or pass to a another Inter player. This makes it very hard to get the ball off him and this can easily be enough.
Sure I did see the game :)

And ofcourse I agree on your points about Capitano.

Villareal game was his exceptional. But didn't he played in that match at his regular position ?
 

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I've moved this thread to the former players & coaches thread.

It's a shame that Pizarro has been sold. He totally mesmerised me during his first few matches for us where he just dominated the whole midfield in the pitch and was Godlike.

I think it's pretty funny that guys who are not happy that we won the 14th Scudetto by default are now using the fact that we had a good squad last season (ARF!!!) and that this justifies the Pizarro sale.

Mancini has always used a playmaker in his side for the past 2 years and never a 2 two-way midfielders that we currently do possess in Vieira and Cambiasso. Now, we have to slightly change our tactics again for next season. Also, it goes without question which player do I think will shine for us more next season, had he been given regular chances...D.Pizarro >>> Vieira

I think I will be pelted with stones once everyone finish reading this paragraph but once again, some baldheaded player who was favoritised by R.Mancini has once again kicked out the most talented midfielder in Inter. It was Emre in the summer of 2005 and now D.Pizarro this summer. Because of his consistent spot in the first-team, regardless of his performance, 2 midfielders have now left the club to get more playing time. Even though he is not in Inter right now, this debacle only makes me hate him more. :mad:


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I've moved this thread to the former players & coaches thread.

It's a shame that Pizarro has been sold. He totally mesmerised me during his first few matches for us where he just dominated the whole midfield in the pitch and was Godlike.

I think it's pretty funny that guys who are not happy that we won the 14th Scudetto by default are now using the fact that we had a good squad last season (ARF!!!) and that this justifies the Pizarro sale.

Mancini has always used a playmaker in his side for the past 2 years and never a 2 two-way midfielders that we currently do possess in Vieira and Cambiasso. Now, we have to slightly change our tactics again for next season. Also, it goes without question which player do I think will shine for us more next season, had he been given regular chances...D.Pizarro >>> Vieira

I think I will be pelted with stones once everyone finish reading this paragraph but once again, some baldheaded player who was favoritised by R.Mancini has once again kicked out the most talented midfielder in Inter. It was Emre in the summer of 2005 and now D.Pizarro this summer. Because of his consistent spot in the first-team, regardless of his performance, 2 midfielders have now left the club to get more playing time. Even though he is not in Inter right now, this debacle only makes me hate him more. :mad:


Hand:stress:yo

I agree on Emre to a certain extent. He behaved very unprofessional while on that international duty where he claimed Milan was the better Milano team and he regretted his move to the black and blue part rather than the red and black.

I see your point, also because his lack of playing time might triggered this out-burst while with Turkey, but Emre screwed things up for himself by doing this. Every man is responsible for his own actions, you know. Too bad, I liked Emre a lot and still do.
 

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I agree with ya han. I was shocked when pizzaro left. He was too good of a player in my opinion, Mancini is startin to get on my nerves signing worthless players for much money, then sellin players with bigger talent for nothin.
 

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Goodbye pizarro :cry:

And congrats to oure managment to ruin such a good transfere campain.
But since it s a co owner ship i guess will see u back again in black and blue when u showed what u re able to do under a smart coach.
But coz of u re stupid coach will lose another 10 mios when we ll try to get him back.
I m realy starting to think that mancini is retarded
 

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http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/aug20d.html

Pizarro explains Roma choice

“It’s not easy to leave a club like Inter and Roberto Mancini tried to keep me, but the passion of the Sensi family convinced me to come here,” said the former Nerazzurri midfielder


I just had a feeling it was Mancini who wanted him to stay. Despite Mancini not utilising him well, I still think Mancini had some intelligence and wanted Pizarro to stay.

God, please rid us of those idiots running the club. It is like having a Moggi working against us, excecpt these Moggi's are inside our club and doing something legal.

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Well didnt pizzaro say that he wanted to leave because of sensi's push?its even said that spaletti directly talked to pizzaro and convinced to move to roma.
 

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Enjoy it while it lasts guys (basically till late October) when we will once again be out of the chase. For the both of you the dark curtain of shame will fall hardest. At least for the rest of us who are in anticipation of yet another disaster will not be quite as shocked as you.

Leaving your comments aside I just want to reiterate my stand on this Pizarro thing. I dont care that he underperformed last year, Adriano and Zlatan did much the same, that didnt prevent us from retaining/capturing them. Why should it be so different with David? Sure Mancini is sticking to his stubborn 4-4-2 (or so it seems) but just because the player doesnt fit the formation does that mean we should turn around and strengthen a rival team? Those that do not see Roma as a solid contender for the title are dillusional.

EDIT: Just saw confirmation of the bad news I have been expecting all week, excuse me while I go throw up.

WOULD IT KILL YOU TO BE OPTIMISTIC?

If this is your attitude on our situation, then next time you're in a plane don't even EXPECT to get to your destination. just assume that your flight will have blown up half way!!
 

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WOULD IT KILL YOU TO BE OPTIMISTIC?

No, but would it kill the management not to be total fucking retards??

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If this is your attitude on our situation, then next time you're in a plane don't even EXPECT to get to your destination. just assume that your flight will have blown up half way!!

Thanks for the advice, I will keep it in mind next time I am on a plane. ;)


Seriously though his words about the Sensi family getting throught to him piss me off more than anything. This was a players under contract had the management not opened up the lines of communication to him this deal would not have gone through. Hell had they spoken to Mancin about the deal first it wouldnt have gone through.

Sometimes the idiocy of this club is too much to take.


PS: Big :thumbsup: to Mancio he did what he could but there is only so much you can do when you have people in your own organization working against your wishes.
 

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Did we at least get some money from it? Because the only reason I can see in strengthening your main rival would be to gain some money out of it.
 

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lol I think we got 1.4M...we basically gave Roma a gift. I guess our technical staff is feeling pretty confident that we'll win the scudetto this year, they pretty much gave Roma the most dangerous weapon they could possibly have, having Spalletti as their coach.

I would've thought at least Pizarro for Mancini, or Pizarro+Cruz for Mancini...but hey we don't need Mancini, right! Here you go Roma...because we're so good at winning trophies we decided we felt the need for a challenge.

Also, the main point of our newly expected 4-3-3 was so that Pizarro can lead our team. I guess we're relying on Vieira! :lol: ffs
 

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I think we got 6.5m euro / £4m for co-ownership, but i dont understand the contract, can we only buy him back after 4 seasons? i thought co-ownership was 1-2 seasons, 4 seems stupid, because he would be 31 by then... If its only 1-2 seasons, then i think we can get another 10m euro if he performs well.
 

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No, co-owner means it's 50% of every team, the team who want him, should pay the half of the transfer (about 6'5 like u said)
I think this is better option than a totally 100% transfer, because then there is no way that he can return, anyway, i don't think Pizarro wants to return to Inter.
 

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This is, hands-down, the silliest transfer within the last few years. Not only are we receiving a measly sum for the man, but we actually presented him, on a silver platter, to our direct rivals for the season. :rolleyes:

Can we get anymore dumb?

Roma's team is nigh-complete; they are a good striker short of becoming a great all-round team.

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Hamed said:
“It’s not easy to leave a club like Inter and Roberto Mancini tried to keep me, but the passion of the Sensi family convinced me to come here,” said the former Nerazzurri midfielder


I just had a feeling it was Mancini who wanted him to stay.
Mancini is still a moron. He wanted him to stay, but as a back up. So Mancini never intend to use David as a first regular, and that is out of logic. We bought David last year to be a replacement for Veron, but ofcourse Mancini would use David only in 4-4-2, where every child in the world knows David can't play there.

On David Pizarro's transfer to Roma, the Inter coach said: "I am obviously a bit disappointed about his departure, technically he could have been very useful to us. But I can understand that he wants to play regularly and that he preferred to join a team that can guarantee him this."

Maybe next year Spaletti will take David with him, and come to us. Sure I wouldn't mind.
 

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Mancini is still a moron. He wanted him to stay, but as a back up. So Mancini never intend to use David as a first regular, and that is out of logic. We bought David last year to be a replacement for Veron, but ofcourse Mancini would use David only in 4-4-2, where every child in the world knows David can't play there.

On David Pizarro's transfer to Roma, the Inter coach said: "I am obviously a bit disappointed about his departure, technically he could have been very useful to us. But I can understand that he wants to play regularly and that he preferred to join a team that can guarantee him this."

Maybe next year Spaletti will take David with him, and come to us. Sure I wouldn't mind.

I'm wondering how you, of all people, know that Mancini wouldn't use Pizarro regularly. In that last quote, you immidiately focus on the sentence that you can possibly turn to a negative one. If you read the sentence preceeding the one you've chosen to point out, you see that Mancini said that Pizarro would've been of very much use for Inter this season. Also, you should know that Mancini has pondered on a 4-3-3 all summer and even tried it towards the end of last season. Furthermore, he said that Pizarro had to me as fundamental for Inter as Pirlo is for Milan.

It's ok that you don't like Mancini, but don't blame him for things you don't know shit about, especially when your points are so lame set up against what Mancini has actually said.

I can't possibly see why some of you blame Mancini for Pizarro's exit, especially since he was man that convinced Pizarro to stay in the first place. That simply beats my sence of logic.
 
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