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Right lads, due to my boredom, I've got a question for the older guys here. Since I wasn't lucky enough to see him play, who was the better striker Lukaku or Vieri? Curious to know what you guys think.
Lukakwho??? :lol: Vieri is my favorite Inter player ever. Just the way he was able to play with power and finesse was remarkable for a big bruising CF. That CANON of a left foot and his aerial superiority was to be feared every game, he knew how to play off the ball, and the one two's with feet and head so well; wasn't clumsy at all. And as fate would have it, my second born was born on his birthday.

To go back on topic, Vieri was better by far! the only thing he didn't have on Lukaku was speed and some dribbling skills. He was way better at everything else.
 

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Right lads, due to my boredom, I've got a question for the older guys here. Since I wasn't lucky enough to see him play, who was the better striker Lukaku or Vieri? Curious to know what you guys think.
If you are really bored you should ask who was more important for Inter, Lukaku or Vieri.
 

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We released him. That shouldn't stop him from being LGI
That's his right. But LGI has different standards. Great player =/= La Grande material.

Remember how and why Ancelotti refused us many times.
 

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On the other hand Conte is juve legend and he won a scudetto with us.

I don't know why, but I've never viewed Milan as our number 1 rival and always thought that was Juve. So him going to Milan doesn't offend me that much.

He was a great player and he's arguably the best striker we had from Moratti's era and onwards.

He should be LGI.

it's not like he forced his exit or silenced the crowd after scoring against us like R9.
 

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I don't know why, but I've never viewed Milan as our number 1 rival and always thought that was Juve.

Some things just are. You don't always need to know why, it's just true.

Nobody genuinely cares about Milan, that's just for casual daily banter. The real rival and only true enemy is Juventus. Milan is simply the annoying relative you see at holiday tables.
 

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On the other hand Conte is juve legend and he won a scudetto with us.

I don't know why, but I've never viewed Milan as our number 1 rival and always thought that was Juve. So him going to Milan doesn't offend me that much.

He was a great player and he's arguably the best striker we had from Moratti's era and onwards.

He should be LGI.

it's not like he forced his exit or silenced the crowd after scoring against us like R9.
Juve removed Conte from their La Grande section as well. Same with Marotta.
 

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I don't know why, but I've never viewed Milan as our number 1 rival and always thought that was Juve. So him going to Milan doesn't offend me that much.
Believe me if you were born and raised in Milan like I was you would see it differently, it's like that for me and especially the older generation like my fathers that grew up watching Bbilan winning everything while we were picking up the scraps in comparison. Real resentment within the city
 

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Believe me if you were born and raised in Milan like I was you would see it differently, it's like that for me and especially the older generation like my fathers that grew up watching Bbilan winning everything while we were picking up the scraps in comparison. Real resentment within the city
There are more Juventus fans in Milano than Milan fans... At least these days (last 15-20 years).
 

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There are more Juventus fans in Milano than Milan fans... At least these days (last 15-20 years).
I'm going to have to disagree with you there, I'd say in Milan it's an even split of the two Milan teams with a good amount of gobbi, not a minority but definitely not more fans than Milan, it just seems that way because Milan fans go quiet in the bad times and come out in full force when things go well, however in the outskirts of Milan City, the so called Hinterland its majority AC and Gobbi with a minority Inter.
 

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I'm going to have to disagree with you there, I'd say in Milan it's an even split of the two Milan teams with a good amount of gobbi, not a minority but definitely not more fans than Milan, it just seems that way because Milan fans go quiet in the bad times and come out in full force when things go well, however in the outskirts of Milan City, the so called Hinterland its majority AC and Gobbi with a minority Inter.
Do you have the WC titles to back that up?
 
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I'm going to have to disagree with you there, I'd say in Milan it's an even split of the two Milan teams with a good amount of gobbi, not a minority but definitely not more fans than Milan, it just seems that way because Milan fans go quiet in the bad times and come out in full force when things go well, however in the outskirts of Milan City, the so called Hinterland its majority AC and Gobbi with a minority Inter.

Honestly these days it really feels like there's almost 2 Interisti for every Milanista in the city, at least 50% more than those guys. And by the city I mean the municipality of Milano, not the metro area which includes places like Monza, Lecco and Novara. In those places, if you're a Milanista, you hate Inter and kinda like Juventus on top. Which is also why lots of Interisti end up hating Milan. Not only their arrogance, but their sympathy towards Juventus just makes them vile.

Entire metro area you probably have a 50-50 split. If you consider the Lombardia region, they may be more than us.

The joke in Italy these days is that there are more Juventus fans in Milano than both Inter and Milan fans combined :lol: For Milan fans, I guarantee that it's probably true - if they're not on a similar level - but whenever you go to Milano it's almost a rule that the largest fanbase you'll encounter is Inter, no matter how big your sample size is.
In fact, many surveys show that the Milanese clubs have barely over 50% of the fanbase of Lombardia. So you can imagine that it's not inconceivable that together they do not have over 50% of the metropolitan area since most of the provincial areas have significant numbers of both Inter and Milan fans and not really that many support their local team above a Milano team.

There are lots of Napoli fans as well in the city. Juventus fans are either domestic immigrants or 2nd/3rd generation immigrants, whereas Napoli fans are mostly current immigrants.


I gather that you were growing up in the late 80s-early 90s period which was a period where Inter fans weren't really vocal and Milanisti were on top of the moon, after being humiliated for over a decade by Interisti for being a Serie B side etc.
They also had an exaggerated attendance which was sparked by the Berlusconi factor. Not only the PR stuff and people wanting to suck up to him, he was also giving out tickets because he wanted to suck up to others. Either way, attendance shouldn't point out that much as the fanbases are rather similar within a reasonable vicinity of the stadium.

I guess it also has to do with one's social & work circle. When I was interviewing people for the Milano office I was extremely annoyed by how many gobbi came over and back then I was under the impression that Inter & Milan fans were like 90% of the city's population. After that I got grounded to reality and whenever I brought this up, most people would agree on this anecdotal statistic. I met more tourists, immigrants & visitors who supported Milan than actual locals over the last 20 years that I've been going quite frequently for multiple purposes. And most of that was during our banter era, so it's not like our fans were more vocal or anything.
People working in schools are usually a good indicator as they can tell you what teams the kids are supporting.


The gist of it is:
- Milan fans tend to say the city is split between the two sets of fans. That's probably untrue, unless you count the areas that aren't really Milano (ie metro area).
- Juventus fans tend to say they're more than both combined, or at least that they're the most supported club. While farfetched, it's not necessarily false.
- Inter fans tend to say we're the vast majority in the city. I reckon we are the club with the most numerous fans, but we're not the vast majority. Not with all those domestic migrants who are almost exclusively Juventus and Napoli fans.

If I had to guesstimate, I'd say 30-35% are Inter fans, some 25% are Juventus fans, Milan fans are something like 20-25%, some 10% probably are Napoli fans by now and the remaining ~15% is split between various clubs, like Roma, Atalanta, Brescia, Fiorentina, Palermo, Catania etc.

But I trust that these numbers would look much different if it's based on the metro area or in Lombardia. We probably end up 2nd or 3rd there, but my experience is almost exclusive to the city itself.
 

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Honestly these days it really feels like there's almost 2 Interisti for every Milanista in the city, at least 50% more than those guys. And by the city I mean the municipality of Milano, not the metro area which includes places like Monza, Lecco and Novara. In those places, if you're a Milanista, you hate Inter and kinda like Juventus on top. Which is also why lots of Interisti end up hating Milan. Not only their arrogance, but their sympathy towards Juventus just makes them vile.

Entire metro area you probably have a 50-50 split. If you consider the Lombardia region, they may be more than us.

The joke in Italy these days is that there are more Juventus fans in Milano than both Inter and Milan fans combined :lol: For Milan fans, I guarantee that it's probably true - if they're not on a similar level - but whenever you go to Milano it's almost a rule that the largest fanbase you'll encounter is Inter, no matter how big your sample size is.
In fact, many surveys show that the Milanese clubs have barely over 50% of the fanbase of Lombardia. So you can imagine that it's not inconceivable that together they do not have over 50% of the metropolitan area since most of the provincial areas have significant numbers of both Inter and Milan fans and not really that many support their local team above a Milano team.

There are lots of Napoli fans as well in the city. Juventus fans are either domestic immigrants or 2nd/3rd generation immigrants, whereas Napoli fans are mostly current immigrants.


I gather that you were growing up in the late 80s-early 90s period which was a period where Inter fans weren't really vocal and Milanisti were on top of the moon, after being humiliated for over a decade by Interisti for being a Serie B side etc.
They also had an exaggerated attendance which was sparked by the Berlusconi factor. Not only the PR stuff and people wanting to suck up to him, he was also giving out tickets because he wanted to suck up to others. Either way, attendance shouldn't point out that much as the fanbases are rather similar within a reasonable vicinity of the stadium.

I guess it also has to do with one's social & work circle. When I was interviewing people for the Milano office I was extremely annoyed by how many gobbi came over and back then I was under the impression that Inter & Milan fans were like 90% of the city's population. After that I got grounded to reality and whenever I brought this up, most people would agree on this anecdotal statistic. I met more tourists, immigrants & visitors who supported Milan than actual locals over the last 20 years that I've been going quite frequently for multiple purposes. And most of that was during our banter era, so it's not like our fans were more vocal or anything.
People working in schools are usually a good indicator as they can tell you what teams the kids are supporting.


The gist of it is:
- Milan fans tend to say the city is split between the two sets of fans. That's probably untrue, unless you count the areas that aren't really Milano (ie metro area).
- Juventus fans tend to say they're more than both combined, or at least that they're the most supported club. While farfetched, it's not necessarily false.
- Inter fans tend to say we're the vast majority in the city. I reckon we are the club with the most numerous fans, but we're not the vast majority. Not with all those domestic migrants who are almost exclusively Juventus and Napoli fans.

If I had to guesstimate, I'd say 30-35% are Inter fans, some 25% are Juventus fans, Milan fans are something like 20-25%, some 10% probably are Napoli fans by now and the remaining ~15% is split between various clubs, like Roma, Atalanta, Brescia, Fiorentina, Palermo, Catania etc.

But I trust that these numbers would look much different if it's based on the metro area or in Lombardia. We probably end up 2nd or 3rd there, but my experience is almost exclusive to the city itself.
Fair enough, Interesting analysis, Thanks. Unfortunately all we can really do speculate since it's there really isn't an accurate way of calculating the demographics of football fans in an area lol. One thing is though you've given way more many years than I've actually got haha. I'll say this. from when I was in primary to when I graduated high school I only saw Juventus winning. Last years UEL final was the first I ever witnessed that I wasn't too young to understand. But the era you are talking about was the I referenced my father witnessing.
 

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Thanks, Brehme, I will have to click on that Vieri goals video as soon as possible.

Even those of us that liked Lukaku know that Vieri was banging amazing goals and was a dangerous presence throughout his career, shame for his injuries.

Back in the day, I've even bonded with two of my best friends over how awesome Vieri was.
 

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Prime Vieri (97-03) is better than any version of Lukaku. Having said that Lukaku will easily have a better career than Bobo when all is said and done
 

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He won a Scudetto in his only fucken season with the scum while in 6 years with us he won only one Coppa. What a shame.

Btw he sued Inter or Moratti, whatever. That doesn't say he's not an Inter legend, if his rights were abused in any way he was entitled to sue anyone.

His spell with Milan was totally insignificant.

No way was Lukaku better for us. Had Lukaku stayed for more seasons, then we could talk about it.

Fun fact, Vieri is a huge Lukaku fanboy.
 

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My Fav. play of all time, reason why i started supporting Inter in 2002 when he destroy Croatia in WC2002. He was unstoppable.
 
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