BSC Young Boys - Inter (23 Oct 24) [0-1]

[HernanesLeftFoot88]

If brozo stayed, given his overall mentality he would have continued with decline imo, and we would just have one more older player with huge salary. Bigger problem here is we trusted asllani. Rather than looking at it like we shouldn't have got fratessi I think it's better to look at it as we should have found someone better than asllani. He is currently injured, but nobody speaks about this mofo as someone who can at least done a decent job replacing hakan, not even his biggest dick riders here. Everybody is like hakan is injured, we are fucked. There for me lies the biggest problem.

Mhki and Barella can both do the regista to cover Hakan but then the problem is who covers them? Zielinski was bought in to cover all 3 positions but seems injured alot and cant get a run of games to find some form and Frattesi is a step down. Asllani wont be allowed to play in any important games unless there is not other choice - we can all see inzaghi doesnt trust him. I used to think he was a regista but now think he's more of an Mezzala. Plus he IS only 22. Keep him and let him develop.
An equally big problem is that Inzaghi doesnt seem able to try other formations and is stuck with 3.5.2.!

I dont remember any decline from Broz - he just saw Inzaghi preferred Hakan.

 

[Glass box]

I watched De Boers Europa League live and god no, last night was nowhere near that debacle! Well ok, the game at Southampton which was a few days after he was sacked but still.
Frattesi is a relatively limited player but he offers pressing/intensity and goals which is what modern midfielders must possess. A great squad player and option from the bench, no?
I wish Brozo had stayed tho yeh.

Allowing 20 shots from the 10th team in Swiss league is De Boer's level of play. They lacked quality to score but the chances we allowed them were real. Many times they blasted outside the goal but the positions they were in were dangerous.

 

[HernanesLeftFoot88]

Allowing 20 shots from the 10th team in Swiss league is De Boer's level of play. They lacked quality to score but the chances we allowed them were real. Many times they blasted outside the goal but the positions they were in were dangerous.

Statistically i can see what you are saying but really, the level of play was waaaaaayy above FDB era.

 

[vex]

Mhki and Barella can both do the regista to cover Hakan but then the problem is who covers them?

Yeah, maybe against smaller teams, but should we really waste them there in the positions that are not their strongest points, instead of just getting a decent hakan replacement and someone coming from the bench that is actual regista. Shifting barella there you are just trying to resolve one problem and immediately creating another one.

This all regista talk is just a product of asllani not being good enough, people just don't want to see it or admit it. Instead, we are dancing around that discussion by trying to fit square into a circle hole aka mold barella, mhki or zielinski into regista.

 

[HernanesLeftFoot88]

Yeah, maybe against smaller teams, but should we really waste them there in the positions that are not their strongest points, instead of just getting a decent hakan replacement and someone coming from the bench that is actual regista. Shifting barella there you are just trying to resolve one problem and immediately creating another one.

This all regista talk is just a product of asllani not being good enough, people just don't want to see it or admit it. Instead, we are dancing around that discussion by trying to fit square into a circle hole aka mold barella, mhki or zielinski into regista.

Yeh I agree.
For sure Asllani isnt good enough (yet?) but as i said above he is only 22..

 

[Glass box]

If brozo stayed, given his overall mentality he would have continued with decline imo, and we would just have one more older player with huge salary. Bigger problem here is we trusted asllani. Rather than looking at it like we shouldn't have got fratessi I think it's better to look at it as we should have found someone better than asllani. He is currently injured, but nobody speaks about this mofo as someone who can at least done a decent job replacing hakan, not even his biggest dick riders here. Everybody is like hakan is injured, we are fucked. There for me lies the biggest problem.

Brozo would've declined inevitably, yea, but his playing time would've been limited anyways and he could've replaced Hakan temporarily. Brozo is barely 32 years old now which is not old for a backup role until we find another regista.

 

[CraigM]

It's generally better to focus on performance trends rather than performance in one particular game, but either way things don't at all look encouraging. Eleven games played and just two good performances against Atalanta and Man City along with a general lethargy about the team which does not look too far removed from how they played after the title was won last season.

I'm really hoping that it's more a case of players not really finding their motivation again, plus some obvious tail-offs in form by the older players like Darmian, Acerbi and Miki rather than general fatigue at this early stage of the season. If they are tired in October then prospects for the season look poor.

Only Di Marco looks a better player this season and he has been by some distance the key man this campaign. Sommer, Bisseck and Thuram seem to be broadly at the same level as last term, but everyone else seems to have dropped. I'm especially disappointed with Pavard who is not becoming the transformative player we thought he might be. Zielinski is a frustration too as he seems very fragile and, apart from a good game in Manchester, has played all his decent football this season in national team colours.

Not picking on him especially for his feeble penalty, but Arnautovic really does look absolutely done. He just can't get round the pitch and the good close control he did used to have seems to have been lost too. He's even eased off the ball rather too easily for a man of his physique. I'd sooner see Correa play ahead of him on the basis that the Argentinian can at least still run.

I'm finding Taremi a puzzling player, one capable of good pressing, hard-running, some lovely link up play but seemingly incapable of scoring goals as he never finds himself in a position to even take a shot.

At the end of the market I was bemoaning starting the season with just 6 midfielders rather than the 7 of last year. Some people told me that didn't matter because we had players who were not remotely injury prone, but this overlooked the sheer good fortune we had in that department with the main trio pretty much available all season. That was never likely to be repeated and we're suffering as a result now.

 

[CraigM]

Yeh I agree.
For sure Asllani isnt good enough (yet?) but as i said above he is only 22..

As he has extended his contract and will likely be around a while longer, I would like to try Asllani as the vice for Zielinski next season when Miki surely leaves. We can all agree he's not a deep-lying midfielder and he seems to be way more productive when playing further forward for his country.

 

[CraigM]

Barella: ‘Inter attitude is how you win titles’


Does the fact that three substitutes combined to create the goal mean that Inter’s squad rotation had been a mistake at this level?

It might not work very well but it's a necessity rather than a mistake. If you cannot rotate against a pot four team with the awful record that Young Boys had, then who can you rotate against?

 

[Campione]

Fuck Arna and his crying and hissy face on the bench every time he'll put 4/10 performances. This is Inter. Leao is the same weak mentality 25 year old baby boy on the other side of town that needs constant cuddling.

Enjoy your last year with Inter hopefully with some more trophies on your resume , but we have to move on and get a striker that is fearless.

Well, I do not like him too but he is here at least till January and considering our schedule, we will surely need all players if we want to compete.

 

[Nyall]

Brothers i said before the game that if we dont have Hakan,Dimarco and Thuram our team is average

And it feels good to be right
THese 3 are the only World Class players we have
Behind them Lauti and Barella maybe Bastoni

Others are all Average

Acerbi in this system is world class too.

 

[delaurentis]

It might not work very well but it's a necessity rather than a mistake. If you cannot rotate against a pot four team with the awful record that Young Boys had, then who can you rotate against?

Let's not forget about the context here -
Young Boys did have a bad start to the season and replaced their manager. So judge the Young Boys of today, and not the YB of last month. Then you knew this would be a challenging game.

People are looking at Man City, Real Madrid and expect the same type of dominance or score lines - they are the outliers in todays football 'business'. Inter is not like that. 2 hard fought games against Roma and YB - two victories. That's what counts at this moment; we know what this team is capable of when all the players are in peak physical condition.

 

[Mikele]

For days I read that Inzaghi agree deal with MU. Is this really true?

 

[.h.]

For days I read that Inzaghi agree deal with MU. Is this really true?

No. He's turned them down.

 

[Mikele]

No. He's turned them down.

Yes, that was first news, but there is news today, that he accepted. To start 2025/26.

 

[.h.]

Yes, that was first news, but there is news today, that he accepted. To start 2025/26.

Id be shocked if United were planning that. Given the mess they are in right now, I suspect they'd want to see how he next few months go. If he gets sacked soon I think they'll want a new manager in asap to salvage the season.

From inzaghis perspective making the commitment now is dumb. If he has a good season there are far bigger jobs he could be a really good shout for, eg Chelsea, hell his style might even work for Barca. Committing this early in the season to a club like United is almost like admitting defeat.

On the other hand if you told me there was a good chance he leaves this summer I'd fully believe that, it will depend on oak tree etc but with a good season his merit is way up.

 

[CafeCordoba]

What is this talk again We have 5 match win streak, two matches with clean sheet now. We beat YB clearly with the xG, even without penalty (0.79 worth of xG) it was 2.50 - 0.92 (so our real xG was almost 3.3). And even not counting Toro and Thuram chances at last seconds, our xG was like 1.80. Our goal came late but it might aswell came earlier. Their best chance had 0.10 xG, while we had like 5 better chances xG wise (still not counting those last second chances which were over 0.10 both).

It feels like people consider our performances need to be perfect with multiple goals and anything less, it's almost like a disaster. And we won the match.

Yes, we didn't play great but sometimes it goes like this, bench cannot produce but they eat most of the minutes and then starters come in to seal the deal.

 

[.h.]

What is this talk again We have 5 match win streak, two matches with clean sheet now. We beat YB clearly with the xG, even without penalty (0.79 worth of xG) it was 2.50 - 0.92 (so our real xG was almost 3.3). And even not counting Toro and Thuram chances at last seconds, our xG was like 1.80. Our goal came late but it might aswell came earlier. Their best chance had 0.10 xG, while we had like 5 better chances xG wise (still not counting those last second chances which were over 0.10 both).

It feels like people consider our performances need to be perfect with multiple goals and anything less, it's almost like a disaster. And we won the match.

Yes, we didn't play great but sometimes it goes like this, bench cannot produce but they eat most of the minutes and then starters come in to seal the deal.

I dont think its about form, etc is it? Assuming thats a response to the Inzaghi->MU comment?

 

[ADRossi]

What is this talk again We have 5 match win streak, two matches with clean sheet now. We beat YB clearly with the xG, even without penalty (0.79 worth of xG) it was 2.50 - 0.92 (so our real xG was almost 3.3). And even not counting Toro and Thuram chances at last seconds, our xG was like 1.80. Our goal came late but it might aswell came earlier. Their best chance had 0.10 xG, while we had like 5 better chances xG wise (still not counting those last second chances which were over 0.10 both).

It feels like people consider our performances need to be perfect with multiple goals and anything less, it's almost like a disaster. And we won the match.

Yes, we didn't play great but sometimes it goes like this, bench cannot produce but they eat most of the minutes and then starters come in to seal the deal.

The honest discussion we need to have is whether this team is capable of competing in multiple competitions. We were completely overrun in the first half with our reserves. We only started outplaying Young Boys in the second half once we put our best players on.

I was completely fine with Inzaghi's approach yesterday, but people need to accept the only way we're going deep in this competition is 1) an ultra easy path, or 2) dropped points in the league. Dropping points to Milan after drawing City being the prime example.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yes, that's a real topic. Can we handle the games where bench needs to play? I mean, this is fine too that they play the most and few starters come in to finalize the victory. But can we pull that off constantly?