Achraf Hakimi

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I like hakimi but for 80m I think it's a good deal for us.

Yeah. Even if we were in a good financial situation it would be hard to resist it. From a sporting point of view it would be devastating to lose Hakimi. He will probably be the best in his position at least for the next 10 years and it will be impossible to replace him. But from a financial point of view it's simply good business. 80m for a fullback/wingback is crazy money. Even for the best in the world.

I am ok with losing Hakimi for 80m but nothing less than that.
 

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I like Hakimi but I don't rate him as high as most of the forum. It's hard to get a good, reliable wingback and by my estimate, he was reliable like half of the time. Maicon was by all account a better player, but Hakimi is a beast athletically. 80mil to save the club is a great price if that doesn't mean we have to sell a star every summer.

If somebody comes with an bigger offer for Lukaku, then it's a non brainer... Otherwise Hakimi should be the one who is sacrificed.

Funny, our most hyped players like Bro, Hakimi, Lukaku and Barella had the highest highs and the lowest lows. Typical Inter players.
 

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Maicon is not a good comparison in a sense that Maicon was around 25 when he came to the club and was at the peak of his career at the treble year (?) at the age of 28-29. Hakimi is 22, is at the start of his career and he's already this good.

The point in this wingback discussion is in my opinion A SCARCITY. You have only few quality wingbacks, really gamebreaker quality wingbacks in the whole game. There simply do not exist too many gamebreaking wingbacks at all. And we have one of them. So we sell that one, the replacement is several magnitudes lower in quality and gamebreaking ability than the absolute top (which we have atm). In attack, it's a different case since the world is full of talented strikers, top class strikers (for example).

But yeah I think our management sees it that wingback position / role is something whose impact can be replaced easier with a lesser talent.

So far I'm still trusting Marotta. I have my fears but hopefully they are useless fears.
 

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I doubt we will get max out of this deal aka those 80 mil, there has to be some middle ground demand from psg cus we are absolutely desperate.
 

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i feel like there are some rose tinted glasses on hakimi after this last season. It was really towards Christmas for a mnth or so where he was really good, and the end of the season.

As numerous people pointed out, his chemistry with Barella just isnt there - I'm sure it will come with time, but its disappointing for me relative to expectation. As I posted at the start of the season, I really expected Hakimi to be brought in through a lot of clever plays from, e.g., Eriksen, Barella, Lukaku. We've seen a LITTLE bit of that, but no more than a little.


As a player, he's good and clearly growing - but he needs to be much better technically and defensively. So far he's very pace reliant, and has good creative output, but one bad injury could wreck him. At least if he had the Maicon-esque strength and technique, it'd be a different story.


Dont get me wrong, he's epic and I'd love to keep him. Just pointing out that he's not exactly the perfect player yet. Even Darmian's output was only (per minute) ~30% behind Hakimi's.
 

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But yeah I think our management sees it that wingback position / role is something whose impact can be replaced easier with a lesser talent.

i dont think so, the buyers decide who we will sacrifice

if there is a true 100 mil offer for lautaro, he is gone
if there is a true 100 mil offer for lukaku, he is gone
if there is a true 100 mil offer for anyone, bye, bye

just like roma, selling salah, alisson etc


and the replacement will be some cheap player, like hakimi ---> zappacosta


beggars can't be choosers


there isnt any big plan here, year zero, grande inter,
we are selling some first team player and have to settle for mediocre one, thats it
 

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i dont think so, the buyers decide who we will sacrifice

if there is a true 100 mil offer for lautaro, he is gone
if there is a true 100 mil offer for lukaku, he is gone
if there is a true 100 mil offer for anyone, bye, bye

just like roma, selling salah, alisson etc


and the replacement will be some cheap player, like hakimi ---> zappacosta


beggars can't be choosers


there isnt any big plan here, year zero, grande inter,
we are selling some first team player and have to settle for mediocre one, thats it

Yeah you have point here too. It might be that our management have put the info to all agents of the players that hey look interest of your player(s) on the market and let's see what's the result. That we just want to handle this sale as soon as possible and we don't consider any technical football-aspects in this sale. We just get it done ASAP and then we look forward from there what we gonna need for next season's squad.
 

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Hakimi was hot and cold during the season, which is normal for so young player, I guess. Based on his overall performance, I think he costs 40-50mln, but based on further potential, it's maybe 80mln. So, 70mln is a fair price for him at the he moment imo.
 

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We paid 40m + 5m€ bonus year ago. Now he has one EXCELLENT season at Serie A (stats), where he learnt to somewhat defend. That's +15-20m€ immediately in my books.

Unfortunately there isn't such thing as fair price, only prices the buyers are willing to pay given the situation of the seller. That might turn this to Inter accepting less than 80m€.
 

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I dont think PSG will raise their bid significantly above 60 mio, unless Chelsea start involve in the game. PSG is not in a rush, and really for that price there are only few clubs can match the price and even fewer clubs that need to upgrade rb/rwb.

It is still possible that we keep hakimi and let go lautaro, lukaku or bastoni (yikes)
 

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He is potential world class, very likely.

Clubs will want him more then Lautaro who is not that high at potential, and Lukaku who is rated around 100mil but he is already around 28 years old. Also clubs will rather buy Harry Kane who is overall better player at same price.

Inter is in bad situation, don't know how things works with books but plusvalanza of 20-25mil is nothing.

It does not make sense, but I am not expert. His one year od contract is gone, so maybe 35mil.
And Inter needs around 50mil more.
 

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7 goals and 11 assist…. For his first season….

Like you guys not rating him high is hilarious
 

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Cancelo went for fucking 65m euro. Hakimi is worth more than 80m euro but since we are in this position, 80m euro is acceptable. Don't underrate him please.
 

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Like many have said here, if we have to sacrifice a player, Hakimi is one of the last players I would sell. Two main reasons:

1. Gamechanging attacking wing backs are a rare breed
2. Inzaghi's tactics rely on quality attacking wingbacks even more than Conte's

Lautaro IMO should be the player to be sacrificed replacing him would be easier. In attack last season, our holy triangle of Lukaku-Barella-Hakimi must be retained if we want to try and retain the title. Same goes for our 3 defenders. Thats where the title was won.
 

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Like many have said here, if we have to sacrifice a player, Hakimi is one of the last players I would sell. Two main reasons:

1. Gamechanging attacking wing backs are a rare breed
2. Inzaghi's tactics rely on quality attacking wingbacks even more than Conte's

Lautaro IMO should be the player to be sacrificed replacing him would be easier. In attack last season, our holy triangle of Lukaku-Barella-Hakimi must be retained if we want to try and retain the title. Same goes for our 3 defenders. Thats where the title was won.

It's so weird. isn't that something Inzaghi should know himself and also let the managers know?? I don't really know what the hell is going on in this club but at the same time I want to trust Beppe.
 

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To be honest, I think they value more the partnership between Lukaku and Martinez and are doing their upmost to ensure that we keep both players. Personally, I think the strike partnership is important but I feel it shows that our management are not looking much beyond the obvious.

For example, in the years since Maicon left, we have been searching for a replacement and it was only until Hakimi came along that we found one. And then when you think about our left side, it has been a complete black hole for close to a decade. The last competent player to play there was Maxwell. I guess what i am trying to say is finding players that can competently play and excel at left and right back is really difficult but our management does not seem to hold the same view, despite the evidence, and are willing to sacrifice Hakimi to keep the likes of Lukaku and Martinez.

I love the partnership between our front duo and do not want them to be broken up. However, I feel it would be better to sacrifice one of our strikers rather than sell Hakimi.

I also need to say that i have no idea how we would replace Lukaku if he were to leave. Thirty goals in a season is no small feat. And I feel that Martinez is a great player and is only going to get better. But if it meant that we could hold on to Hakimi and fill a position that has troubled us for the last decade, l would be willing to give up one of our strikers.
 

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It's so weird. isn't that something Inzaghi should know himself and also let the managers know?? I don't really know what the hell is going on in this club but at the same time I want to trust Beppe.

Because it's not true, Alberto and Immobile or even Correa are far more important to their game than Lazzari or whoever plays in the opposite wing.

In the same way that Lukaku is far more important to us than Hakimi. People need to understand the distinction, Hakimi is supplementary while Lukaku is fundamental to our game. No matter how exciting the supplements are, you don't sacrifice fundamentals for them.

That being said, if we're going through a rebuild again, it's better to sell Lukaku, who's peaked, than Hakimi whose stock is rising.
 

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To be honest, I think they value more the partnership between Lukaku and Martinez and are doing their upmost to ensure that we keep both players. Personally, I think the strike partnership is important but I feel it shows that our management are not looking much beyond the obvious.

For example, in the years since Maicon left, we have been searching for a replacement and it was only until Hakimi came along that we found one. And then when you think about our left side, it has been a complete black hole for close to a decade. The last competent player to play there was Maxwell. I guess what i am trying to say is finding players that can competently play and excel at left and right back is really difficult but our management does not seem to hold the same view, despite the evidence, and are willing to sacrifice Hakimi to keep the likes of Lukaku and Martinez.

I love the partnership between our front duo and do not want them to be broken up. However, I feel it would be better to sacrifice one of our strikers rather than sell Hakimi.

I also need to say that i have no idea how we would replace Lukaku if he were to leave. Thirty goals in a season is no small feat. And I feel that Martinez is a great player and is only going to get better. But if it meant that we could hold on to Hakimi and fill a position that has troubled us for the last decade, l would be willing to give up one of our strikers.

Couldnt said any better bro, and I think many posters here share your view.

The problem is the management really just need money and they really just folllow up on the first offer they get. Its quiet on lautaro because barcelona are broke and Madrid is still work on their manager. The only other alternative might be Lukaku, but Chelsea might be still in party after CL win. I do not know what Man City is doing currently. Possible they are still trying for haaland
 

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To be honest, I think they value more the partnership between Lukaku and Martinez and are doing their upmost to ensure that we keep both players. Personally, I think the strike partnership is important but I feel it shows that our management are not looking much beyond the obvious.

For example, in the years since Maicon left, we have been searching for a replacement and it was only until Hakimi came along that we found one. And then when you think about our left side, it has been a complete black hole for close to a decade. The last competent player to play there was Maxwell. I guess what i am trying to say is finding players that can competently play and excel at left and right back is really difficult but our management does not seem to hold the same view, despite the evidence, and are willing to sacrifice Hakimi to keep the likes of Lukaku and Martinez.

I love the partnership between our front duo and do not want them to be broken up. However, I feel it would be better to sacrifice one of our strikers rather than sell Hakimi.

I also need to say that i have no idea how we would replace Lukaku if he were to leave. Thirty goals in a season is no small feat. And I feel that Martinez is a great player and is only going to get better. But if it meant that we could hold on to Hakimi and fill a position that has troubled us for the last decade, l would be willing to give up one of our strikers.

It's just proof that strikers and goal scorers attract more attention than the rest of the team. A player could dribble past half the opponent players and assist the goal, but it's the goal scorer who is mentioned and remembered by many. Inter won this title as a collective effort. No player carried this team to the title, yet people say Lukaku carried us because he scored the goals!

Of all the players I think Barella, minus the last few weeks, was our most consistent player, not Lukaku. But since Lukaku scored the most goals, the rest of the team got overshadowed by his scoring stats. I'm not trying to diminish his season, but he's not as irreplaceable as many suggest. In the current situation he's the most logical choice to sacrifice. Due to his age his price is going to fall from now on and this is the best time to cash on him. Hakimi should not be touched unless an offer comes which is too good to refuse. Anything less than 80m for him should not be accepted.
 

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if you want to talk about a new banter era, if it comes to losing three guys, then selling Hakimi, De Vrij and Brozovic and keeping Lukaku with Vidal and Perisic is exactly what will do the trick.
 
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