Achraf Hakimi

[bubba zanetti]

3-5-2 without quality fullbacks is shite. Sell Lautaro,sell Eriksen,but Hakimi?!Jesus Christ this is epic idiotism.

 

[Il Drago]

Okay, so PSG move on, sign a new RWB, and then we've got no demand for any of our plaayers

Right. They will move on. There are so many quality rwbs at the level of Hakimi in the market after all.

 

[.h.]

3-5-2 without quality fullbacks is shite. Sell Lautaro,sell Eriksen,but Hakimi?!Jesus Christ this is epic idiotism.

Eriksen we'd be lucky to break even on. Plus, look ta Luis Alberto. Hopefully Eriksen can fill the same role.

we've struggled with strikers who can score goals all decade basicalay, Icardi was the only reala guy for me (Palacio was hit and miss). I'd rather keep Lautaro personally.

 

[pazza moratti]

3-5-2 without quality fullbacks is shite. Sell Lautaro,sell Eriksen,but Hakimi?!Jesus Christ this is epic idiotism.

No... its realism! We dont have 30m to puchase him so he will go. If we want to keep him we need that 100m + 30m. So not idiotism but realism!

 

[PHM1605]

Okay, so PSG move on, sign a new RWB, and then we've got no demand for any of our plaayers

This deal is stupid on the price itself. 60m? What a joke.

We are dealing with the same club whom owns UEFA in their pocket. The same club that traded a fucking stadium for two players. And yet we agree with a 15m profit

It we are forced to sell (which I disagree, but still), just hang it at AT LEAST 90m they will bite it soon enough. No discount for P$G bullshit.

 

[IRR26]

Hakimi and Lukaku were big factors why Inter won the scudetto this year.

Without them it is harder. Although I believe Conte would win the scudetto even without them next year and Inzaghi couldn't win scudetto even with them.

 

[Campione]

SportMediaset are reporting that we want 80 millions for Hakimi.

 

[.h.]

I'd be really pleased if we got 80m for Hakimi. 1 season on and he's doubled his value. If that means all the remaining sales are free for us to re-invest, that's a strong position. I still hope ot see Perisic leave, from aa salary savings perspective its substantial.

Between Vecino, Sensi, Perisic, Nainggolan, JM,you could be looking at 40m to spend this summer. With some creative structures, that could do nicely for us on a new RWB.

 

[dax21]

Between Vecino, Sensi, Perisic, Nainggolan, JM,you could be looking at 40m to spend this summer. With some creative structures, that could do nicely for us on a new RWB.

This is a fair point, except Beppe loves his bargain and he will push and play tug of war until the last day of the mercato where all of the good deals will be cherry picked in advance. As good as he is, there are some negative aspects that appear as collateral.

We knew immediately that at least one star player must be sold. And that's fine, as much as I hate to see Hakimi go. However I worry that we will end up lacking money even to substitute all the shitters you named above and that we will effectively start the next season with no bench options, a la Spalletti's tenure here. Bench options and 5 subs is what got us the scudetto this season given our reliance on wingbacks.

I just don't want to see us next year in Juve's current shoes which is practically a given the way this shitshow is accelerating.

 

[.h.]

This is a fair point, except Beppe loves his bargain and he will push and play tug of war until the last day of the mercato where all of the good deals will be cherry picked in advance. As good as he is, there are some negative aspects that appear as collateral.

We knew immediately that at least one star player must be sold. And that's fine, as much as I hate to see Hakimi go. However I worry that we will end up lacking money even to substitute all the shitters you named above and that we will effectively start the next season with no bench options, a la Spalletti's tenure here. Bench options and 5 subs is what got us the scudetto this season given our reliance on wingbacks.

I just don't want to see us next year in Juve's current shoes which is practically a given the way this shitshow is accelerating.

tbh there's a reason i targetted those names. Only two of them have any real game time for us. Two arent even at the club, and one barely played this season.

Sensi+Vecino you could easily fold into one replacement. Perisic will be replaced by Dimarco anyway. Nainggolan, JM, any money from Dalbert and Lazaro is all net profit too.

For me, if we sel Hakimi, focus on a new RWB, decide if Dimarco makes the grade or we need an upgrade, and then the rest of the money can go into bench players. I dont even mind taking a risk on the bench (from a cos tperspective) - I think Pirola and Vanheusden would be fine, maybe we can get Zappaa as part of the Nainggolan swap and I'd be OK with him as rotation RWB, Darmian's there too. Dont think we need Dambro or Frog. I'd want another MC, even if we still had Gagliardini, hopefuly we offlload Vidal, andd maybe convince Sanchez to cut his wages. That wouldnt be so bad.

 

[Il Drago]

Biasin says Inter don't accept 60m for Hakimi. He's the last player Inter management would be willing to sell but so far there are no offers for anyone else.

The problem is even if we get 80m for Hakimi, we aren't going to re-invest. The rumour is they want to replace Hakimi with Florenzi. You would need another big sale in order to spend serious money on the market.

 

[.h.]

Biasin says Inter don't accept 60m for Hakimi. He's the last player Inter management would be willing to sell but so far there are no offers for anyone else.

The problem is even if we get 80m for Hakimi, you aren't going to re-invest. The rumour is they want to replace Hakimi with Florenzi. You would need another big sale in order to spend serious money on the market.

If Hakimi takes us to net 0 for the window, then any money from Brozovic, Perisic, JM, Vecino, Nainggolan, Sensi, Vidal, Lazaro, Dalbert, youth (Di Gregorio linked for like 7m, Pinamonti, maybe even Esposito/Van heusden/etc) is cashflow for the summer.

That's a decent war chest, albeit requiring some creative accounting probably.

And from a first team impacat, you're only really talking 3 players of note? (Broz, Perisic, Vidal)

I can see us pushing the Handanovic issue a season further, 20m on a rotation keeper when we've got this context is probabaly not gonna fly.


Ironically, I could see us signing Donnarumma - at a Milan-level wage. The lack of a fee makes it quite compelling for us, and he fits the parameters (young, italian, etc). If he ends up in a situation where there are no immediate takers at his ask, the salary request should drop quite quickly imho.

 

[magnesium]

Did Beppe sell Pogba, Vidal, and Bonucci at Rubentus?

Trust Marotta, He is CEO Guru, know how to replace some player. If Hakimi gone, Beppe will replace him with other good players.

 

[Il Drago]

Did Beppe sell Pogba, Vidal, and Bonucci at Rubentus?

Trust Marotta, He is CEO Guru, know how to replace some player. If Hakimi gone, Beppe will replace him with other good players.

He did but they were never really replaced. Pjanic was good for them but ever since he sold Vidal and Pogba Juve's midfield was never as strong as it was with them and it remains to this day their main weakness. He failed to replace Bonucci at such an extent he had to bring him back a year later.

In any case, Marotta had the chance to reinvest money from Vidal and Pogba by getting Dybala, Pjanic and Higuain. It doesn't look like we will manage to re-invest Hakimi money. They will simply be used to cover the loss.

@h. you would also need to replace Sensi and Vidal else your bench is shit. So you would have to get at least 5 players with any money you collect from those sales.

 

[NimAraya]

Biasin says Inter don't accept 60m for Hakimi. He's the last player Inter management would be willing to sell but so far there are no offers for anyone else.

The problem is even if we get 80m for Hakimi, we aren't going to re-invest. The rumour is they want to replace Hakimi with Florenzi. You would need another big sale in order to spend serious money on the market.

We have to wait a little bit more for the offers to come for the other players. The two clubs who may want our strikers are playing the CL final tonight. They dont come making offers in such an important night. The mercato hasn't officially started yet and even if it does Hakimi, Barella and Bastoni should be the last players Inter think about selling, specially for such a low amount.

 

[.h.]

I dunno

Checking over transfermarkt quicky, it looks like Sensi + Vidal were on the pitch at the same time for <100 minutes this season. They've effectively fulfilled the same role, just one was injured in the first half of the season, and the other the second half.

If we sold everyone on my list (I doubt it) we'd need a new LWB (Dimarco), MC (Broz replacement), MC (Bench), RWB.

Not entirely unmanageable with the cashflow

This is the problem, we have a lot of 'fat'.

 

[NimAraya]

Atletico Madrid sold Lucas Hernandez to Bayern for 80m in 2019. I won't sell Hakimi even for that amount. WC WBs are hard to find these days and we should not let go of the only one we have.

 

[Il Drago]

I dunno

Checking over transfermarkt quicky, it looks like Sensi + Vidal were on the pitch at the same time for <100 minutes this season. They've effectively fulfilled the same role, just one was injured in the first half of the season, and the other the second half.

If we sold everyone on my list (I doubt it) we'd need a new LWB (Dimarco), MC (Broz replacement), MC (Bench), RWB.

Not entirely unmanageable with the cashflow

This is the problem, we have a lot of 'fat'.

If we sold Perisic we would need two lwbs. Young is already gone. And i don't think one midfielder for the bench would be enough. In that case, you would be an injury or suspension away from having Gagliardini as your only midfield option on the bench. You simply can't compete both in Serie A and CL like that.

 

[.h.]

dimarco+1 my man

And two good midfielders on bench should be alright. It's not ideal, but if a slimmer bench means we keep more of the first team, I'm ok with that.

Barella De Paul (arguments sake) Eriksen Gagliardini and Locatelli or something works for me. Maybe one loan or younger guy.

I dont expect us to compete in both Serie A, this is about staying competitive in Serie A whilst limitating damage.

IMHO our bench is pretty much 2 midfielders atm anyway. You've got Broz, Barella, Eriksen (half season), Gagliardini (bench), and then between Vidal Sensi Vecino you basically have 1 guy who started half of a season and then was a rotation option. Dont think Im missing anyone?

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just on that note, if you ignore Dimarco's 2 goals and numerous games as a CB, he's scoring or assisting every 246 minutes in a very mediocre at best side. I dont think it's unreasonable to expect that would increase at Inter, so its actually not a million miles from Hakimi.

 

[Il Drago]

According to Sky, Inter have already rejected a 60m offer from PSG for Hakimi and they want at least 80m. In case Hakimi is sold, Inter's top target is Emerson who's owned by Barcelona but played on loan at Betis in the last two seasons. He could be available for 20-25m.