2024/2025 Midfielders Rumours Thread

[Dave54]

I don’t think Chiesa is a good fit for Inzaghi’s system.

 

[Choppin Onions]

We don’t use wingers under Inzaghi. I don’t dislike Chiesa as much as some but what’s the point? He’s definitely no CF to play alongside Lautaro and he’s probably not much of a wingback either.

 

[Linege]

thuram isnt a perfect 3-5-2 player, we got him because there was an oportunity to get him on free

he is here because none of the top10 clubs in europe wanted him

 

[Kova10]

thuram isnt a perfect 3-5-2 player, we got him because there was an oportunity to get him on free

he is here because none of the top10 clubs in europe wanted him

You say this because your source is Tranfsermarkt and not watching games by Gladbach with him and Plea up front.

 

[Forzanerazzurri]

Does that shock you? We have one of the best midfield in Europe and Miki is one of the best for his position.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan is not world class. I feel like I am in an insane asylum.

 

[Dave54]

Henrikh Mkhitaryan is not world class. I feel like I am in an insane asylum.

dude. stop it.

 

[Dave54]

So how do you classify world class? Name me 5-6 midfielders in Europe.

 

[ADRossi]

There's not a person alive who thinks current day Mkhitaryan is world class.

 

[Dave54]

There's not a person alive who thinks current day Mkhitaryan is world class.

really? So Hakan and Barella are world class?

 

[#NotForMe]

really? So Hakan and Barella are world class?

Just the physicality aspect between Barella and Mkhitaryan shows why Mkhitaryan isn't and Barella can be one, like think the game we played against Atlético de Madrid at home and compare the performance, the limitation of Mkhitaryan is obvious, but he still dominates most Serie A team, or team that are skillful and tactical but less physical demanding.

 

[Dave54]

So Atletico game you decided to put on Miki.
Barella is not as much physical as Miki. They run the same amount. Miki is hugely important on the left side of midfield. anyways., lets' not play Miki for a while and you will see the result. It's clear that Zielinski is not ready yet. Yesteday's game has shown that. Good luck with Frattesi.

 

[#NotForMe]

So Atletico game you decided to put on Miki.
Barella is not as much physical as Miki. They run the same amount. Miki is hugely important on the left side of midfield. anyways., lets' not play Miki for a while and you will see the result. It's clear that Zielinski is not ready yet. Yesteday's game has shown that. Good luck with Frattesi.

Physicality is not limited to running distance or purely stamina, and even if we are talking stamina only, besides running distance the tussling part and how you run (sprint, jog, walk) also demand lung capacity and muscle endurance differently, and Barella is way ahead.

There is a reason why Mkhitaryan struggled so much against Atlético de Madrid along with Darmian, like a world class player doesn't have be world class in physicality, but you cannot be inferior to a point it can hinder your game. Also I am not faulting him for the game, but that game shows you why he is not WC anymore, if he ever was one.

Don't get me wrong, I still think Mkhitaryan has a huge role to play in this team, and I appreciate his football intelligence, skills and consistency, which he will be looking very good for most the games, but not when we are playing some very strong opponents in CL. He is basically how Dzeko was good for us. I never deny how important Mkhitaryan is for us, and yes, Zielinski still needs time, I have been watching pre-season too, and I agree.

To me Barella is our only WC midfielder, Hakan is only borderline; however, we still do have one of the top midfields in Europe, cause football is never evaluated based on pure individuals, like Riquelme might be better than Xavi or Iniesta individually for game impact alone, but I cannot see how you pair Riquelme with anyone and can make them better than Xavi + Iniesta.

 

[Dave54]

So, tell me 5 right midfielders there that are inferior to Barella. World class I mean.

 

[#NotForMe]

So, tell me 5 right midfielders there that are inferior to Barella. World class I mean.

I am not following, you mean superior than Barella? Or you mean World Class players that are worse than Barella? if it is the later, I would to clarify i don't think real life is like some fiction characters power scaling, cause first it is not a linear element we are comparing (e.g. weight lifting), second is are we comparing peak potential performance of the current season, or are we talking about average if so how does fluctuations fit in here (e.g. consistency), third is what are the external factors given in the comparison.

I mean for players that are clearly on different levels, we can compare e.g. Toro vs Correa, else Messi vs Ronaldo wouldn't be so controversial in the past decade(s).

With that said, I would take Barella over Enzo Fernández, Alexis Mac Allister, Vitinha, de Jong and Gavi all day without a doubt, I deliberately left off the more debatable ones in here. (e.g. Valverde even I would still prefer Barella at Inter.)

Also if that is the case, tell me 5 midfielders you think that are Top/WC players and are inferior to Mkhitaryan. I am curious.

 

[Dave54]

What about Dembele, Silva or Foden?

 

[#NotForMe]

What about Dembele, Silva or Foden?

Those are more like wingers with some midfield duties, which brings me back to the third point the external factors, like Barella is better than Buffon or not? And you haven't answered my question yet.

"Also if that is the case, tell me 5 midfielders you think that are Top/WC players and are inferior to Mkhitaryan."

I truly want to know.

 

[Dave54]

Those are more like wingers with some midfield duties, which brings me back to the third point the external factors, like Barella is better than Buffon or not? And you haven't answered my question yet.

"Also if that is the case, tell me 5 midfielders you think that are Top/WC players and are inferior to Mkhitaryan."

I truly want to know.

Great tactic not answering question. I would say Miki is top 5-6 in Europe for his position.

 

[ADRossi]

He's the third best midfielder on his own team, bro. There's zero chance he's top five in Europe, unless you change the definition to some ultra specific version of LCM that only three top clubs play.

 

[Dave54]

He's the third best midfielder on his own team, bro. There's zero chance he's top five in Europe, unless you change the definition to some ultra specific version of LCM that only three top clubs play.

ok, tell me who are ahead of him on the left? name 5-6 names.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

I think the difference in quality between Mkhi Barella and Hakan is not significant to put any of them ahead of the others. So either all of them are world class or none of them is.