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The difference is Real Madrid had world class players in their 20’s playing in those positions.

It’s like if we have a young promising left footed centre back coming through the ranks his path is blocked by Bastoni ( assuming we were owned by serious owners that is)

The Casadei one is baffling because he’s a 6 foot 1 midfielder with his speciality being making runs into the box and scoring goals. A player we absolutely have nothing alike in our team. But oh well is what it is
Is he better than Asllani and Agoume? For me, he is not yet, so it's not so difficult choice, considering how broken we are.
 

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sell Casadei over 8 mil are a good business, let alone 15 m, he is still a youngster....... but what will the club is going to do with some profit from his sale is already....... predictable.....

use the money to sign old fossil Acerbi, give him 3 mil net for two or three years duration....... and after that........ the club propose another loan to bank, increase more debt, and finally is going bleed 200 m per year to pay this old fossil service with bonus....... endless loop shit :einstein: :einstein:
 
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haha I don't know if I would rather him fail and get him back on loan in a season or 2.

Or for him to do well and get 5 million.

If he does turn out another Zaniolo wtf has no coach given him any minutes !! 20 million for a kid who almost never played for us is a real good deal.

Sad we sacrifice our future to try and be competitive today. Basically his fee goes to Sanchez/Vidal control Terms + the new Roma Dinosaur wages.
 

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Tbh we don't really know how good Casadei is. He has been great at primavera level but he has never been tested at professional level. He could be the next Zaniolo, the next Benassi, the next Bessa etc. Time will tell.

Inzaghi's opinion doesn't necessarily mean he isn't good enough to be a 6-7th option at Inter. Zaniolo also wasn't considered good enough for Inter as Spalletti saw Valero as a better option but then he went to Roma and impressed.

From a financial point of view 15+5 for a player who has never played a professional match is a good deal. From a sporting point of view you can't help but wonder why not giving a chance to a player you already own when you have no money. But the project needs to support developping youngsters and the club doesn't have this mindset. So better cash in and hope you won't regret it.
 

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Tbh we don't really know how good Casadei is. He has been great at primavera level but he has never been tested at professional level. He could be the next Zaniolo, the next Benassi, the next Bessa etc. Time will tell.

Inzaghi's opinion doesn't necessarily mean he isn't good enough to be a 6-7th option at Inter. Zaniolo also wasn't considered good enough for Inter as Spalletti saw Valero as a better option but then he went to Roma and impressed.

From a financial point of view 15+5 for a player who has never played a professional match is a good deal. From a sporting point of view you can't help but wonder why not giving a chance to a player you already own when you have no money. But the project needs to support developping youngsters and the club doesn't have this mindset. So better cash in and hope you won't regret it.
"Why not give a chance you already own". Yeah that's one argument to a situation when you indeed don't have any money. Our situation is even worse, we need to make money. Our ownership is clearly pushing for making money from the transfers. We can't just sit tight with our assets, we need to sell some of them.

This is why Casadei is going to Chelsea.
 

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To be honest his talent is not obvious, he plays well on the second floor, all other aspects of the game are average, Zaniolo was immediately obvious that he will be a star, he scored a lot, Casadei is not, in my opinion this is a very good deal, the probability that he will grow into a super star is not very high. Sell Denzel Washington for 50 and Carboni will have his minutes, that's very good.
 

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the thing is, where we stand right now, given experience etc, Asllani is a better choice than Casadei, and given the options, I'd rather have Asllani + the plusvalenza from Casedei surely?

Time will tell how he develops, of course, but as a starting point...
 

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But what does the plusvalenza do for us? Reports indicate that we'll still have to sell a big player this fiscal year. It's just now we can wait until after the season. We're using a bandaid to patch a bullet hole, and we're still not profitable.

We're still not generating nearly enough revenue to become profitable in the near or medium term, given our commercial revenue is flailing and we are never getting a stadium.

A club in our position should be holding on to young talents and trying to integrate them to keep costs down. Instead we're stuck pursuing this short-term dream of staying competitive while continually draining our squad of its most talented players. It's going to fail, imo, it's just a matter of when.

We all can argue selling Casadei in this situation is wise. Overall, we're still fucked, and this does nothing to address the root problem, or even make a dent in it.
 

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well as i said, the plusvalenza arguably gets us asllani
 

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It seems that this is our way of getting Lukaku without paying a dime to Chelsea. It's an Inter-Belgium NT players kind of thing.
 

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But what does the plusvalenza do for us? Reports indicate that we'll still have to sell a big player this fiscal year. It's just now we can wait until after the season. We're using a bandaid to patch a bullet hole, and we're still not profitable.

We're still not generating nearly enough revenue to become profitable in the near or medium term, given our commercial revenue is flailing and we are never getting a stadium.

A club in our position should be holding on to young talents and trying to integrate them to keep costs down. Instead we're stuck pursuing this short-term dream of staying competitive while continually draining our squad of its most talented players. It's going to fail, imo, it's just a matter of when.

We all can argue selling Casadei in this situation is wise. Overall, we're still fucked, and this does nothing to address the root problem, or even make a dent in it.
Yeah I think we can argue selling Casadei in Casadei thread.

We are fucked but why does it have to be talked about in every discussion?

Casadei wouldn't do shit for us in near term, let's say 2-3 years most probably. We simply cannot hold on these young talents because it hinders their development. Player gets frustrated because he can't play because they are not good enough to play for Inter yet. Inter and coach gets frustrated because there's player(s) in the squad who are simply not ready for the game of Serie A and the pressure of Inter. Everyone loses. Not even Chelsea integrate these kids to their first team.

Throwing young talents to the first team simply is not an answer, it is not going to work. People go apeshit the moment a youngster loses a game for us. Meazza and the media are ruthless.
 

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Read on Twitter he's a Milan fan. Oh well it's not like he would develope here ever. We still have a lot of talent with the carboni brothers.
 

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Read on Twitter he's a Milan fan. Oh well it's not like he would develope here ever. We still have a lot of talent with the carboni brothers.
Who will in all likelihood never get a look in, regardless of their talent.
 

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But what does the plusvalenza do for us? Reports indicate that we'll still have to sell a big player this fiscal year. It's just now we can wait until after the season. We're using a bandaid to patch a bullet hole, and we're still not profitable.

We're still not generating nearly enough revenue to become profitable in the near or medium term, given our commercial revenue is flailing and we are never getting a stadium.

A club in our position should be holding on to young talents and trying to integrate them to keep costs down. Instead we're stuck pursuing this short-term dream of staying competitive while continually draining our squad of its most talented players. It's going to fail, imo, it's just a matter of when.

We all can argue selling Casadei in this situation is wise. Overall, we're still fucked, and this does nothing to address the root problem, or even make a dent in it.
Exactly. This is the elephant in the room.

We can debate all day about the merits of developing an exciting young prospect vs selling a completely unproven kid for good money. At the end of the day however, what is not up for debate is that the money we get for Casadei is fucking useless anyway. It's not enough to prevent the sale of a core player like Skriniar, nor is it enough to make a dent in our absurd debt or losses. At this point in the mercato, it's not even going towards financing any significant squad improvement.

Previously, I wanted the likes of Casadei and Pinamonti sold to finance the Bremer deal. Bremer would have been an excellent replacement for de Vrij and significantly strengthened our first team. Now though? We're literally trading a potential star for a 4th choice CB. Whotf does that?

There were reports that the Casadei transfer would go towards a deal for Lukaku - a couple of things about this. Firstly, those rumours have since gone by the wayside and all reports indicate that Casadei is a standalone deal for 15m cash with 5m in bonuses - not linked to Lukaku in any way.

Secondly, even if the transfers were linked, it's an absurd way to use the money. Even if we cooked the hell out of the books and overinflated Casadei's value, it would be so inadvisable to commit towards that kind of investment at this stage of Lukaku's second stint. What if he bombs? What if he's seriously injured? If he has a great season, he's extremely likely to want to continue with us anyway. If he flops, we could cut costs. If he succeeds, we would have all the leverage for a second loan, so why rush into securing a fee now?

Then again, we had all the leverage when we first re-signed him yet that didn't stop us giving him ridiculous wages.
 

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During the time when we're also discussing the sale of Skriniar, Bastoni, Lautaro or whoever can fetch some good money, Casadei is the least of my concern.
 

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Sadly we did the same shit under Moratti. This club has no clue how to develop a youngster.
It’s different though. Under Moratti, we sell youngsters because we couldn’t develop them, we did gave some of them chances before selling. Now we sell just because Suning is broke and need fucking cash.
IMO Moratti loved the young players and wanted to promote them but we were too shit at developing them, the pressure was too high, sometimes we had too many big names in the team that youngsters couldn’t compete with. But I remember we did try to promote youngsters from academy like Ventola, Oba, Balotelli, Santon… we only sold youngsters when we didn’t rate them highly or couldn’t develop them further. Moratti never really sold promising youngsters just because we needed money. Now promising or not, young players and even star players are only plusvalenza to Suning. They even want to sell Skriniar and Bastoni for the right price ffs, let alone academy kids.
 

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Exactly. This is the elephant in the room.

We can debate all day about the merits of developing an exciting young prospect vs selling a completely unproven kid for good money. At the end of the day however, what is not up for debate is that the money we get for Casadei is fucking useless anyway. It's not enough to prevent the sale of a core player like Skriniar, nor is it enough to make a dent in our absurd debt or losses. At this point in the mercato, it's not even going towards financing any significant squad improvement.

Previously, I wanted the likes of Casadei and Pinamonti sold to finance the Bremer deal. Bremer would have been an excellent replacement for de Vrij and significantly strengthened our first team. Now though? We're literally trading a potential star for a 4th choice CB. Whotf does that?

There were reports that the Casadei transfer would go towards a deal for Lukaku - a couple of things about this. Firstly, those rumours have since gone by the wayside and all reports indicate that Casadei is a standalone deal for 15m cash with 5m in bonuses - not linked to Lukaku in any way.

Secondly, even if the transfers were linked, it's an absurd way to use the money. Even if we cooked the hell out of the books and overinflated Casadei's value, it would be so inadvisable to commit towards that kind of investment at this stage of Lukaku's second stint. What if he bombs? What if he's seriously injured? If he has a great season, he's extremely likely to want to continue with us anyway. If he flops, we could cut costs. If he succeeds, we would have all the leverage for a second loan, so why rush into securing a fee now?

Then again, we had all the leverage when we first re-signed him yet that didn't stop us giving him ridiculous wages.
With Suning, everyone has a price tag on his back, doesn't matter starter or a youngstar. I'm even surprised that we'll get potentially 20 mln for Casadei, cuz I personally expected 12.
 

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Sold so we can get a 4th CB. (fifth if we don't count DiMarco)
 
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